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We can say that Baldwin broke all the rules of safe gun handling but he's likely never heard of them. He's anti-gun and would have never been trained like everyone here. Gun handling rules are learned, not instinctive. That's why they have an armorer. It's her job to do what the actors can't do because of the lack of training. It's her job to keep everyone safe and she totally failed to do her job. This is on her head. It's on Baldwin too, because as producer he's the one who hired her, as incompetent as she was. This is why he's screwed. Not because actors who are handed weapons in a declared condition by the set staff are responsible for following the 4 rules while shooting people on camera. Why it was pointed at the people he shot, and what he allegedly said per set witnesses immediately before they were shot, well, that's a different discussion......
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And, sometimes, bad things happen.
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sounds like this was a low budget schit fest of a movie. baldwin being the producer probably hired her for next to nothing and thought he was getting diversity points as well. he's got some 'splainin' to do. . she will take the majority of the blame but he will get his ass sued off and doubtful will be doing much work any time soon. couldn't happen to a nicer guy
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It's a movie set, play acting, there should be no live ammo on the set. do we know there was "live ammo" on the set, assuming you are not referring to blanks? If that info has been posted here, verifiable info, I must have missed it. Without live ammo on the set, the incident could not have happened. Brandon Lee was killed with a "blank." Plastic pieces entered his abdomen and he died as a result. The only sure thing that would have prevented this is basic firearm safety procedure. Nope. You can get the actual story by searching.
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We can say that Baldwin broke all the rules of safe gun handling but he's likely never heard of them. He's anti-gun and would have never been trained like everyone here. Gun handling rules are learned, not instinctive. That's why they have an armorer. It's her job to do what the actors can't do because of the lack of training. It's her job to keep everyone safe and she totally failed to do her job. This is on her head. Alec Baldwin's father was a Marine and shooting instructor, I vet he knows firearms Not disagreeing, but with the armorer's family history, she should know firearms a lot better than seems the case. She said in an interview a month or so prior that she didn't think she was ready to be an armorer Sounds to me like she got her job because of her father’s name and claim to fame. And that she was obviously neither qualified or competent. The negligence falls first upon her dumbass as it was her responsibility as “set Armorer” to make the guns and set “safe”. And then on Baldwin for hiring her dumbass. And if asswipes Baldwin is proved have received firearms safety instruction and training from his “Rifle Team Coach Dad” he damn sure should have known better. If nothing else, it should cost the POS gun hating Libertard a schitt Load of Money.
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sounds like this was a low budget schit fest of a movie. baldwin being the producer probably hired her for next to nothing and thought he was getting diversity points as well. he's got some 'splainin' to do. . she will take the majority of the blame but he will get his ass sued off and doubtful will be doing much work any time soon. couldn't happen to a nicer guy Yep.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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And, sometimes, bad things happen. Those are accidents. This was negligence. And incompetence.
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It's a movie set, play acting, there should be no live ammo on the set. do we know there was "live ammo" on the set, assuming you are not referring to blanks? If that info has been posted here, verifiable info, I must have missed it. Without live ammo on the set, the incident could not have happened. Brandon Lee was killed with a "blank." Plastic pieces entered his abdomen and he died as a result. The only sure thing that would have prevented this is basic firearm safety procedure. Nope. You can get the actual story by searching. If you continue reading I have already admitted my mistake twice.
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And, sometimes, bad things happen. Those are accidents. This was negligence. And incompetence. Yep. No doubt.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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You old hens still beating this dead horse?
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You old hens still beating this dead horse? Not really. It's just interesting when an anti-gun liberal, Trump hater gets the Karma that he conjured up in the past 15 years. It's also amusing to watch all the anti-gun liberals scramble when one of their own does something horrific due to liberal stupidity, and it goes viral world wide.
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It's a movie set, play acting, there should be no live ammo on the set. do we know there was "live ammo" on the set, assuming you are not referring to blanks? If that info has been posted here, verifiable info, I must have missed it. Without live ammo on the set, the incident could not have happened. Brandon Lee was killed with a "blank." Plastic pieces entered his abdomen and he died as a result. The only sure thing that would have prevented this is basic firearm safety procedure. Nope. You can get the actual story by searching. If you continue reading I have already admitted my mistake twice. The news item I read said Lee was struck by built up material present in the bore. That may not have been the case, but it is one of the details an armorer is supposed to attend to.
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If Baldwin is lucky they will discover that the poor woman was ill and the real cause of death was Covid.
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And, sometimes, bad things happen. Those are accidents. This was negligence. And incompetence. Virtually all AD shootings are negligence of some kind. A gun never fires by itself. Someone mishandled it. That's kind of like the popular headline "Gun fires while being cleaned". Total BS. You can't clean a gun with a round chambered. It's always a case of someone pulling the trigger of a loaded gun while preparing to clean it or doing something else that's stupid. You can't even run a ramrod all the way down a barrel with a chambered round and the ramrod won't fire it if you try.
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You old hens still beating this dead horse? Not really. It's just interesting when an anti-gun liberal, Trump hater gets the Karma that he conjured up in the past 15 years. It's also amusing to watch all the anti-gun liberals scramble when one of their own does something horrific due to liberal stupidity, and it goes viral world wide. Yep. And Baldwin will be the “dead horse” when all is said and done. Or his career, which was pretty much done anyways. Doubt it will be long before his Libertard Hollyweird buddies turn on him too, like they did Harvey Weinstein. Even more fun to watch Libertards eat their own.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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You old hens still beating this dead horse? Post a pic bitch. They only hens you're worried about are the ones you play dress up with in Missoula trolling for college homos.
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You old hens still beating this dead horse? Not really. It's just interesting when an anti-gun liberal, Trump hater gets the Karma that he conjured up in the past 15 years. It's also amusing to watch all the anti-gun liberals scramble when one of their own does something horrific due to liberal stupidity, and it goes viral world wide. So the first old hen answers. LOL Baldwin’s stuff on SNL was classic. Heck even the brain dead trumpsters I know thought it was funny.
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You old hens still beating this dead horse? Post a pic bitch. They only hens you're worried about are the ones you play dress up with in Missoula trolling for college homos. LMAO !
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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You old hens still beating this dead horse? Post a pic bitch. They only hens you're worried about are the ones you play dress up with in Missoula trolling for college homos. Another old hen. LOL No surprises. TFF
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