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The Pfizer vaccine isn’t 99% graphene oxide

14 JULY 2021
WHAT WAS CLAIMED

The Pfizer vaccine is 99% graphene oxide.
OUR VERDICT

False. The MHRA has told Full Fact that this is ‘completely incorrect’.
There have been multiple claims made online which say that the Pfizer vaccine contains 99% graphene oxide, a substance which is derived from graphite. The claims originate from a Spanish study and have been circulating in English (across the UK and the US), in Spanish and in Portugese. They are not true.

Some of the claims highlight concerns about the toxicity of graphene oxide, while others suggest that graphene oxide may provide an explanation for the ‘magnetism’ that has been commonly claimed to be associated with the Covid-19 vaccines (this is false and we have fact checked this claim previously).

In addition to seeing posts shared on social media, Full Fact has also been asked about these claims by our own readers. Several users on social media have claimed graphene oxide in the vaccine is being used to poison people and create a mass genocide. This is not true, and there is no graphene oxide in the Pfizer vaccine.


Graphene oxide is a nanomaterial (a chemical substance or material that is at a very small scale, for example with an external dimension of 1-100nm) which is thought to be of important potential use for biomedicine. There are concerns, however, around toxicity and potential adverse effects.

There are modifications which are being explored, and Johns Hopkins infectious disease specialist Dr. Amesh Adalja previously told AP News that there has been research on potentially using graphene oxide in other vaccines, but the amounts would not be toxic to human cells.

The concern around the presence of graphene oxide in the Pfizer vaccine seem to be based on a Spanish study which says that on transmission electron microscopy (a microscopy technique which allows particularly fine details and structures to be seen), the solution created from a vial of the Pfizer vaccine takes a very similar form to graphene oxide.

Graphene oxide is not listed as an ingredient of the vaccine, and the Medical and Health product Regulatory Agency (MHRA) told Full Fact that these claims are “completely incorrect”.

A spokesperson for Pfizer also told Full Fact that “Graphene oxide is not used in the manufacture of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine”.


With regards to the Spanish study, there are a number of problems with the claims that it makes, and the way that these findings have been interpreted by some people on social media.

The claim that the Pfizer vaccine is largely made up of graphene oxide has been fact checked many times before.



Only one sample was tested and its provenance is unknown
Firstly, we have no way of verifying what the scientists actually looked at through electron microscopy. The paper says that the sample of Pfizer vaccine for testing was received by the testing laboratory from a courier and, although the sample was sealed, its provenance and traceability is unknown. The author says in the study limitations that these findings are from “one single sample” of Pfizer vaccine and therefore, “significant sampling of similar vials” is required in order to “draw conclusions that can be generalized”.



The study itself says it is not ‘conclusive evidence’
When referring to the images which compare electron microscopy of the Pfizer vaccine with images of microscopy of graphene oxide, the study says that they “represent a high similarity” but also says that this does not provide “definitive identification” or “conclusive evidence”.

Importantly, the document says that it is an interim report. It has not been published in a reputable scientific journal, or received peer review.


The University of Almeria has distanced itself
Thirdly, while the researcher who authors the paper reportedly works at the University of Almeria in Spain—a claim that has been used to add legitimacy when circulated online—the author clearly states that the results and conclusions of the report “do not imply any institutional position of the University of Almeria”.

The university has also publicly distanced itself from the paper on Twitter and in a released statement, saying that it is an “unofficial report by a university professor about an analysis of a sample of unknown origin with total lack of traceability”.

The university said it does not subscribe to this report.

https://fullfact.org/online/graphene-oxide/

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OF COURSE a spokesperson from PFIZER is going to say there's no GO in their vax. HOLY CHIT! Are you people really this shallow?

And from fullfact.org of all places. LMAO. Unreal

The point apparently being missed, is that it is from the other end of the spectrum of the link you posted.

Merely because I posted something in opposition, don’t get your exercise jumping to conclusions.


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You seriously don’t know the sign offs, record keeping, multiple checks and random spot testing that are involved with regard the manufacture of pharmaceuticals.


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Originally Posted by smokepole
The saddest part about this forum getting all these nut jobs is that it's supposed to be a hunting, shooting, and outdoor forum.

Anyone from outside who visits here will come away with the idea that hunters and shooters are a bunch of whack jobs.

Just more fodder for the leftists.


I have been a part of many different forums over the years and there are more fruits and nuts here than I have ever witnessed anywhere else.

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Originally Posted by BuckHaggard
Originally Posted by smokepole
The saddest part about this forum getting all these nut jobs is that it's supposed to be a hunting, shooting, and outdoor forum.

Anyone from outside who visits here will come away with the idea that hunters and shooters are a bunch of whack jobs.

Just more fodder for the leftists.


I have been a part of many different forums over the years and there are more fruits and nuts here than I have ever witnessed anywhere else.


Maybe you two should get a list of rules on how to act properly from the Leftists.


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Originally Posted by battue
You seriously don’t know the sign offs, record keeping, multiple checks and random spot testing that are involved with regard the manufacture of pharmaceuticals.
You are correct. But I do know employees are kept in the dark about formulae in all sorts of industries..
Whether there is Graphene Oxide in the stuff or not I'm suspicious of its promoters and I think it is quite unknown as to long term deleterious effects and it is not to be considered for myself.


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Well, I'm often involved with it on a smaller scale....And with regards the IV fluid that goes into someones arm, when it is my day in the barrel...I best not be in the dark, for when I sign it off, the responsibility is on me. And the same system applies to the larger companies. And if something is being deliberately snuck in that shouldn't be or is not listed...and it is easy to find out what is actually in there, independent companies make a living at it....then eventually higher heads will pay the price. And that is something they avoid at all costs.

Checks: compatibilities, what, how much, manufacturer, lot number, expiration dates, spot checks....

Believe what you don't know....Nothing unusual here....



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Best check you shorts.....someone probably contaminated it with Covid Vaccine...The Chinks most likely.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by battue
You seriously don’t know the sign offs, record keeping, multiple checks and random spot testing that are involved with regard the manufacture of pharmaceuticals.
You are correct. But I do know employees are kept in the dark about formulae in all sorts of industries..
Whether there is Graphene Oxide in the stuff or not I'm suspicious of its promoters and I think it is quite unknown as to long term deleterious effects and it is not to be considered for myself.


At one point in the last two years Pfizer had 47 top Chynese scientists on their vaccine work or medication program.


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So battue, are you telling me the nurse at Walgreen's knows all the ingredients in the vaccine she's putting in people's arms??

If so, why don't we get her on here to answer the $69 question?



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For Smoke a pole and A sniper.

Somewhere after the 36 min mark iirc Gen Mark Flynn is on video saying the vax is not good.

Now, do you two fruitcakes consider Flynn and Trump to be fruitcakes while swallowing Biden and Fauckkis BS? Inquiring minds want to know.

https://rumble.com/vo6igt-10.24.21-...he-line-many-leave-their-jobs...-tr.html

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Originally Posted by smokepole
So battue, are you telling me the nurse at Walgreen's knows all the ingredients in the vaccine she's putting in people's arms??

If so, why don't we get her on here to answer the $69 question?



Nope, her speciality is choice and administration, not manufacture....however, those two most likely give her/him more expertise on the subject than most....who get their knowledge from 3rd rate podcasts with a prior agenda...



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Originally Posted by battue
Best check you shorts.....someone probably contaminated it with Covid Vaccine...The Chinks most likely.


Dont be ridiculous. Didnt your bud Biteme say the Chynese are our friends? Hell, they make 80% of our meds for us.

Surely the Ds and Rinos couldnt be honey potted or bought off to raise red tape and taxes on mfg companies in the US for a few decades to drive them overseas, right?

How many Chynese scientists do we have running around in Sandia National Labs and in the labs of all our top universtities (after Chyna gives them hundreds of millions a year).

Well, its over 5000.

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Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by smokepole
So battue, are you telling me the nurse at Walgreen's knows all the ingredients in the vaccine she's putting in people's arms??

If so, why don't we get her on here to answer the $69 question?



Nope, her speciality is choice and administration, not manufacture....however, those two most likely give her/him more expertise on the subject than most....who get their knowledge from 3rd rate podcasts with a prior agenda...




How many members of the Chynese Communist Party do you guys think should be on Pfizers investment management team?


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It was a ridiculous reply to a ridiculous post...which obviously was too much for you to understand...

None...but tell me how exactly how many are on their investment management team..To the point...Card carrying CCP members..

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
For Smoke a pole and A sniper.

Somewhere after the 36 min mark iirc Gen Mark Flynn is on video saying the vax is not good.

Now, do you two fruitcakes consider Flynn and Trump to be fruitcakes while swallowing Biden and Fauckkis BS? Inquiring minds want to know.

https://rumble.com/vo6igt-10.24.21-...he-line-many-leave-their-jobs...-tr.html


LOL, minute 36!! I don't have the time or the inclination, like you do. And who is general Mark Flynn? Mike's brother? Is he a vaccine expert? Saying the vaccine is "not good" sounds very technical and expert-like, I'm not up on all that technical jargon.

As far as the vaccine and Trump, you do realize he was and remains a proponent, and very publicly got the shot, right?

LMAO!!



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Originally Posted by battue
It was a ridiculous reply to a ridiculous post...which obviously was too much for you to understand...

None...but tell me how exactly how many are on their investment management team..To the point...Card carrying CCP members..


70.


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Smoke...
Patience the boy has repeatedly proven he and Joe suffer the same malady....


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