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I have been looking for some .243 Win ammo. Not much to be found but there seems to be a lot of 6mm CM in factory ammo in the shelves.

What gun manufacturers are making a 6CM? How do you like yours?


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It’s basically a .243 DR (Done Right), the 6mm equivalent of the .260/6.5 YKW (You Know What) situation. Optimized case design and standard twists that allow longer bullets in SAs. Less trimming and maybe better case life.

No real reason to switch if you’re happy shooting 100gr bullets in a .243, or have one of the few made with fast-twist barrels like some Rugers were (are?) except maybe being able to find ammo. I see more rifles available all the time. I managed to snaffle a Fieldcraft before they ran out. Sold my fast-twist .243 Number 1V to help pay for it. Later, I bought another .243 because it was a good deal and it’s still just as useful as ever. If limited to one, I’d go CM.

Winchester makes the 1885, Browning has XBolts, Ruger has a bunch, Howa made some. Saw some Lapua brass today.

I like my FC pretty well, but I’d like it as a 7” twist .243 with a 3” magazine too.

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I like my FC pretty well, but I’d like it as a 7” twist .243 with a 3” magazine too.


It's too bad other gunmakers [ TIKKA ] couldn't see fit to make rifles like that.

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Howa is making them. Some years back they had the barreled action for something like $259.

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There's very little differents, between the 6mm cm and a fast twist .243, when it comes to shooting and hunting, nothing you shoot will know the differents. Rio7

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Howa is making them. Some years back they had the barreled action for something like $259.



I've got one of them and it is a gem in my book. Put it into a McMillan. It is a stout little rifle and shoots darned well. I also have a couple 243's as well. As Pappy said, a 7-8 twist 243 would've done the same work for me. But it works nice and ADG brass just keeps going and going.

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I have since put a 3x9 SS on it. Great little utility rifle.

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I have a Nosler M48 in 6 Creed. Very accurate. It was a PTA getting Nosler to get it right though.

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Nice!

I got one of those and put it in a Wby stock, but sold it unfired when I realized three .24 cal rifles were maybe just a bit much for an old fat man.

Funny, but the guy I sold it to is literally old enough to be my father(!), if you can imagine that. He was a real horse-trader though!


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I wished I’d gotten a couple of them at that price. I’m pretty sure I got one of the last ones though. It was a great deal. The rifle is a gem. Trigger needs a little addressing but it’s a solid package for me. It’s a 7.5 twist and has shot 55 NBTs and 105 HPBTs into small groups.


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It is not a high end gun by any means but the Ruger Predator I had shot crazy good with factory ammo.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
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Howa is making them. Some years back they had the barreled action for something like $259.



I've got one of them and it is a gem in my book. Put it into a McMillan. It is a stout little rifle and shoots darned well. I also have a couple 243's as well. As Pappy said, a 7-8 twist 243 would've done the same work for me. But it works nice and ADG brass just keeps going and going.

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I have since put a 3x9 SS on it. Great little utility rifle.


Nice rifle! What McM stock is that? Do they have Howa inlet or just Rem 700 clone? Any fitment issues?

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Mine is a Christensen Arms MPR converted to a McMillan Game Scout, steel barrel. It's for sale BTW


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Howa is making them. Some years back they had the barreled action for something like $259.



I've got one of them and it is a gem in my book. Put it into a McMillan. It is a stout little rifle and shoots darned well. I also have a couple 243's as well. As Pappy said, a 7-8 twist 243 would've done the same work for me. But it works nice and ADG brass just keeps going and going.

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I have since put a 3x9 SS on it. Great little utility rifle.


Nice rifle! What McM stock is that? Do they have Howa inlet or just Rem 700 clone? Any fitment issues?





It was a Howa inlet. I believe this is the Sako Hunter. No problems at all with fitment. Nice stock, good support on the face.


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I had one build on a plain jane 700 with JC bbl in a Grayboe. Haven't tried handloads yet, but these factory load seem to work well.

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I wore out two barrels in my dakota 243 and was satisfied with the cartridge but did find the 243 touchy for reloading......

When Fieldcraft came out with the 6CM, I bought one and was very happy with the results.....amazed would be a better term.
I found the 6CM to be much friendlier to load for and promptly went out and killed a nice wolf with it.Perfect on caribou also.

Then I got the bug for a suppressor so I bought the threaded Fieldcraft......another winner!

Then Sportsmans Warehouse had a sale on the Ruger Precision in 6CM so now I have three 6CMs but the Ruger doesn't do much for me
as I find it heavy and cumbersome especially compared to a Fieldcraft......not in the same league but does shoot quite well.

I recently got 1K 108 ELD M so now I need to find Pappy's Lapua brass.

When Sig produces their Cross model in 6CM, there will be one in my truck.

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I have the RPR and, with a Timney trigger, is a fun steel shooting sob, but it isn't "practical" at all.

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I think it was last year that Brownells has the barrels Howa actions at the $259 price. I saw it posted on here and then when I went to buy one, they were gone. Since then, I have only seen Ruger American Predators in them. I would like to pick one up, but really would of liked the Howa better.

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Originally Posted by goalie
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What do you have David?


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Originally Posted by devnull
Howa is making them. Some years back they had the barreled action for something like $259.


Thanks. I'll check out the Howa's. Don't have one but have heard they're decent.


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I had one build on a plain jane 700 with JC bbl in a Grayboe. Haven't tried handloads yet, but these factory load seem to work well.


No reason but cost to handload for that!


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I've got a Ruger precision


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I’ve a pair of 6 creeds on Kimber 84s that I had spun up for the kids. Both shoot 108s very well and have piled deer up easily.

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Originally Posted by tzone
No reason but cost to handload for that!


Ammo availability is a big issue for less than mainstream chamberings here in this province. I tried before and had to get it out west.

The closest decent LGS is 2 hrs from here and they didn't have it last yr when I bought what I have.

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I’ve a pair of 6 creeds on Kimber 84s that I had spun up for the kids. Both shoot 108s very well and have piled deer up easily.


Who rebarreled them for you?


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I had a Ruger Predator in 6CM, one of the very early rifles. Shot just fine with both Hornady loads, 103 and 108 iirc. The 103 shot just a hair better. The Barnes 95 LRX shot even better but it was hard to find. I took the 103 loads to MT and dropped 2 deer nicely with single shots and not much fuss. Just moved on from it because I found a rifle I wanted more

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Originally Posted by tzone
I have been looking for some .243 Win ammo. Not much to be found but there seems to be a lot of 6mm CM in factory ammo in the shelves.

What gun manufacturers are making a 6CM? How do you like yours?



I have a couple in cobbled-together kit.
Due to years of overwhelmingly positive feedback surrounding factory ammo for both the 6.5 amd 6mm Creedmoor, I decided to give a couple of different brands a whirl in my latest 6mm Creedmoor. I hadn't fired a factory round in 30 years and so it took a bit to overcome that sinfulness but the 95 LRX, 103 ELD-X were both szchidt-eatin'-grin accurate and the 87gr Varmint Express was not too far behind.

I was able to buy all three of factory brands pretty readily - either locally or via Midway so if you're going to shoot factory stuff, I'd likely opt for the 6mm Creedmoor - it won't be going away anything soon. And, Tom - save the brass for me. laugh


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Scott,

I can roll my own but I am down on .243. And it’s getting too close to deer season to start a load and check it. But I do see 6CM all over the place when I look at ammo. (I always check)

Plus, I just want a new gun. laugh


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Them 105 Bergers kill some deer DRT... just saying.


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Them 105 Bergers kill some deer DRT... just saying.


Yes, they do. And in the several I shot with that bullet at modest ranges, also create enough strawberry jello to last the year. shocked


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Originally Posted by tzone
Scott,

I can roll my own but I am down on .243. And it’s getting too close to deer season to start a load and check it. But I do see 6CM all over the place when I look at ammo. (I always check)

Plus, I just want a new gun. laugh


If it is a time issue, the easiest 6mm CM to get your hands on that I have seen in stores in my area is the Ruger American Predator. I think if Scheels runs a good sale in the next month, I will add one to my collection. Other than that, I have not seen another rifle in that chambering in a real store.

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Originally Posted by beretzs
I wished I’d gotten a couple of them at that price. I’m pretty sure I got one of the last ones though. It was a great deal. The rifle is a gem. Trigger needs a little addressing but it’s a solid package for me. It’s a 7.5 twist and has shot 55 NBTs and 105 HPBTs into small groups.


Sorry if I’ve missed it but curious on the 55’s. I have a lot of them and I would like to give them a go. I’ve read where H414 is pretty much the go to in 243 but I don’t have any and don’t expect to see any available. Fingers crossed you’re using a different powder…haha.



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Originally Posted by Kaleb
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I wished I’d gotten a couple of them at that price. I’m pretty sure I got one of the last ones though. It was a great deal. The rifle is a gem. Trigger needs a little addressing but it’s a solid package for me. It’s a 7.5 twist and has shot 55 NBTs and 105 HPBTs into small groups.


Sorry if I’ve missed it but curious on the 55’s. I have a lot of them and I would like to give them a go. I’ve read where H414 is pretty much the go to in 243 but I don’t have any and don’t expect to see any available. Fingers crossed you’re using a different powder…haha.



In my 243 h414 was great with 55’s but H4895 and imr4895 were excellent as well.


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Originally Posted by Kaleb
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I wished I’d gotten a couple of them at that price. I’m pretty sure I got one of the last ones though. It was a great deal. The rifle is a gem. Trigger needs a little addressing but it’s a solid package for me. It’s a 7.5 twist and has shot 55 NBTs and 105 HPBTs into small groups.


Sorry if I’ve missed it but curious on the 55’s. I have a lot of them and I would like to give them a go. I’ve read where H414 is pretty much the go to in 243 but I don’t have any and don’t expect to see any available. Fingers crossed you’re using a different powder…haha.


Kaleb I used RL15, I have a ton of it and wanted to try it out. It was honestly more accurate than my 105 load is on average. I’d think 4895, 15, 17, etc would all work fine. Anyplace 414 works, 17 is better in my opinion.


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Well that’s good to hear! I have a lot of it too for 250AI 708 22-250AI before switching to H4350 and 223AI before switching to lever. I hate to be the guy asking a question and wanting a certain answer but it worked this time…ha. Thank you.



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Originally Posted by Kaleb
Well that’s good to hear! I have a lot of it too for 250AI 708 22-250AI before switching to H4350 and 223AI before switching to lever. I hate to be the guy asking a question and wanting a certain answer but it worked this time…ha. Thank you.


Nope, I’m always the fella asking silly Questions. 15 works.

I need to order a trigger for that rifle. And maybe some Hammers.


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I’ve a pair of 6 creeds on Kimber 84s that I had spun up for the kids. Both shoot 108s very well and have piled deer up easily.


Who rebarreled them for you?


Pacnor did one and Shaen did the other.


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The timney I put in another vanguard years ago has been fine so that’s what I put in this one. It has been fine. I still need another one for a close out 243 I keep in the truck. Timney and rifle basix are the only options right?



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What was wrong with the Weatherby trigger?


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The first one from years ago wouldn’t adjust down enough and still allow the safety to work. These newer two stage adjust down ok just not as light as I would like and I’m not used to the two stage trigger. I have used it on the truck gun but wouldn’t mind changing it too at some point. It hasn’t been a priority though.

I’m sure some can adjust the triggers much much better than I could. I just chose to replace them rather than pay a Smith and have been able to catch the replacements on sale both times.



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