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Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575521 10/30/21
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,655 Likes: 1 QLD Australia. DBT Campfire Tracker
DBT Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,655 Likes: 1 QLD Australia.	With the lawyers playing their part....

Re: The armorer responsible JSTUART #16575527 10/30/21
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Bwana_1 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2017 Posts: 8,155 Likes: 2 Deep in the Timber	Originally Posted by JSTUART Respectfully...if they had standards on that set the woman would still be alive. The buck stops at the producer. Not if the professional armorer on site doesn't do his/her job, and allows rules and protocol to be circumvented.

Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575534 10/30/21
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DBT Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,655 Likes: 1 QLD Australia.	She should suffer the consequences of her negligence.

Re: The armorer responsible callnum #16575552 10/30/21
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,469 Likes: 3 Texas	Originally Posted by callnum You old hens are still wringing your hands over this? TFF Originally Posted by callnum You old hens are still wringing your hands over this? TFF No we hope that leftard POS Baldwin goes to jail for negligent homicide. Dog I rescued in January

Re: The armorer responsible Bwana_1 #16575554 10/30/21
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,469 Likes: 3 Texas	Originally Posted by Bwana_1 Originally Posted by JSTUART Respectfully...if they had standards on that set the woman would still be alive. The buck stops at the producer. Not if the professional armorer on site doesn't do his/her job, and allows rules and protocol to be circumvented. Professional armorer? That makes it OK for Baldwin to shoot someone? You are also an idiot. Dog I rescued in January

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Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575556 10/30/21
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steve4102 Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,301 Likes: 8 MN	'Rust' armorer breaks silence, blames producers for 'unsafe' set, has 'no idea where live rounds came from' https://www.theblaze.com/news/alec-baldwin-shooting-armorer-live-round Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.

Re: The armorer responsible LongSpurHunter #16575561 10/30/21
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,469 Likes: 3 Texas	Originally Posted by LongSpurHunter Originally Posted by chlinstructor Originally Posted by goalie Originally Posted by chlinstructor Who’s sock puppet is LongSpurHunter ??? Some retard who thinks you make movies with gunfights by having the actors "check" the weapons???? LOL. Yep. I figured it was another BoobyBrown sock puppet, since he hadn’t posted for the last couple of days. Come on over, I have a few guns and the wife is running video. Amazing how you so called CONSERVATIVES give so many passes for people not being responsible for their own actions. Sad state of affairs Hey retard who here is giving passes out to people who kill others? It is you leftist scum. Not conservatives. Eat Schitt and die. Dog I rescued in January

Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575572 10/30/21
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Tyrone Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 14,729 Likes: 2	Originally Posted by Castle_Rock For the guns on the set of the movie where the girl was killed Sad What a fat, spoiled pig. Not only has she been given everything, she can't pass anything up, especially if it's on a fork. She has absolutely NO connection to reality. Typical of a society that doesn't have to do anything. Politics is War by Other Means

Re: The armorer responsible DBT #16575577 10/30/21
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rockinbbar Campfire Kahuna Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 69,683 Likes: 22 Not In The City	Originally Posted by DBT She should suffer the consequences of her negligence. So should Baldwin, not only as the trigger man, but as producer responsible for hiring the ignorant snowflake armorer. As well as the idiot asst. director who knew better than to be handling guns on the set. Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!

Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575640 10/30/21
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Snowwolfe Campfire Tracker S Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,688 Likes: 4 Moving to Alaska!	Can anyone say with 100% certaintly that Baldwin didn't slip in a live round himself? Could of been a joke, to scare someone, etc. No matter what you believe he could of easily put the round in the gun himself. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.

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Re: The armorer responsible steve4102 #16575661 10/30/21
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StoneCutter Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 7,870 The RED part of MD	Originally Posted by steve4102 'Rust' armorer breaks silence, blames producers for 'unsafe' set, has 'no idea where live rounds came from' https://www.theblaze.com/news/alec-baldwin-shooting-armorer-live-round Yep, she's passing the buck. I've got a few questions. Wasn't she the person in charge of loading the gun and handing it off? Did she put the live rounds in it? If she did, didn't she know the difference between blanks, dummies, or live rounds? If she wasn't the one who loaded the gun, who did? If someone else loaded it, why didn't she load it? She's also the person in charge of the ammo. Why didn't she know that there was live ammo on the set? Sounds like she aught to be held accountable along with the rest of the gang, including Baldwin. Put your tin foil hats on because to me, it sounds like some pissed off employee slipped the live rounds in to demonstrate how unsafe the set was and how she wasn't qualified to do the job. Just a theory. Last edited by StoneCutter; 10/30/21. "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan

Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575676 10/30/21
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JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5	She wouldn’t be responsible for an intentional act of someone else. I think that has to at least be considered. Live rounds on a set is such an unusual circumstance as that it has to be considered.

Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575717 10/30/21
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goalie Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 12,580 Minnesota	The more I think about this, the more I'm questioning why the consensus seems to be that Hollywood "best practices" somehow absolve the actor. If I'm in a class and an instructor hands me a firearm and tells me it's unloaded, then I shot someone because: 1. It wasn't and 2. I didn't check, is still be up on charges. I'm pretty sure the negligent homicide/manslaughter statues don't have a "but they were making a movie" exception written into them. Which, as usual, makes any inaction my the DA political......

Re: The armorer responsible rickt300 #16575718 10/30/21
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Bwana_1 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2017 Posts: 8,155 Likes: 2 Deep in the Timber	Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by Bwana_1 Originally Posted by JSTUART Respectfully...if they had standards on that set the woman would still be alive. The buck stops at the producer. Not if the professional armorer on site doesn't do his/her job, and allows rules and protocol to be circumvented. Professional armorer? That makes it OK for Baldwin to shoot someone? You are also an idiot. When you have to resort to name calling in every post, I'd say your IQ and ability to have civil discourse is very low. Carry on....

Re: The armorer responsible JoeBob #16575736 10/30/21
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StoneCutter Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 7,870 The RED part of MD	Originally Posted by JoeBob She wouldn’t be responsible for an intentional act of someone else. I think that has to at least be considered. Live rounds on a set is such an unusual circumstance as that it has to be considered. I agree, but she's the one with the Armorer's License. They haven't said how many live rounds were found. It could have only been 1 or 2 mixed in. If it was a whole box, she should have noticed that. I wonder how much training she had to receive and did she have to pass some sort of a test to get the license? Not sure how that works. "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan

Re: The armorer responsible Castle_Rock #16575769 10/30/21
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Snowwolfe Campfire Tracker S Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,688 Likes: 4 Moving to Alaska!	You guys need to think outside the box for a minute. I'll repeat myself. No one knows if Baldwin slipped in the loaded round himself. He could of been playing a prank, wanted to scare someone, or wanted to shake up the crew, or set it up so he could scream bloody murder as to why he was handed a loaded gun. He is arrogant enough to do it for any number of reasons to make himself appear to be the "victim" or to try to make others look bad. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.

Re: The armorer responsible StoneCutter #16575772 10/30/21
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SandBilly Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 18,125 🇺🇸	Originally Posted by StoneCutter Originally Posted by JoeBob She wouldn’t be responsible for an intentional act of someone else. I think that has to at least be considered. Live rounds on a set is such an unusual circumstance as that it has to be considered. I agree, but she's the one with the Armorer's License. They haven't said how many live rounds were found. It could have only been 1 or 2 mixed in. If it was a whole box, she should have noticed that. I wonder how much training she had to receive and did she have to pass some sort of a test to get the license? Not sure how that works. They said it was hundreds of live rounds. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: The armorer responsible Bwana_1 #16575779 10/30/21
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,469 Likes: 3 Texas	Originally Posted by Bwana_1 Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by Bwana_1 Originally Posted by JSTUART Respectfully...if they had standards on that set the woman would still be alive. The buck stops at the producer. Not if the professional armorer on site doesn't do his/her job, and allows rules and protocol to be circumvented. Professional armorer? That makes it OK for Baldwin to shoot someone? You are also an idiot. When you have to resort to name calling in every post, I'd say your IQ and ability to have civil discourse is very low. Carry on.... How you can be dumb enough to blame anyone other than the person who pulled the trigger is hard to fathom. What professional armorer? Are you so dense you can't see Baldwin hired a dufus to handle the guns? More on Baldwins responsibility for the accident. Dog I rescued in January

Re: The armorer responsible Snowwolfe #16575782 10/30/21
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jaguartx Campfire Oracle J Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 95,743 Likes: 2	Bbl Originally Posted by Snowwolfe You guys need to think outside the box for a minute. I'll repeat myself. No one knows if Baldwin slipped in the loaded round himself. He could of been playing a prank, wanted to scare someone, or wanted to shake up the crew, or set it up so he could scream bloody murder as to why he was handed a loaded gun. He is arrogant enough to do it for any number of reasons to make himself appear to be the "victim" or to try to make others look bad. Maybe he wanted to know what it felt like to wrongfully kill someone. Just saying. Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left. A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind. "The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan". I Dindo Nuffin

Re: The armorer responsible SandBilly #16575820 10/30/21
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StoneCutter Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 7,870 The RED part of MD	Originally Posted by SandBilly Originally Posted by StoneCutter Originally Posted by JoeBob She wouldn’t be responsible for an intentional act of someone else. I think that has to at least be considered. Live rounds on a set is such an unusual circumstance as that it has to be considered. I agree, but she's the one with the Armorer's License. They haven't said how many live rounds were found. It could have only been 1 or 2 mixed in. If it was a whole box, she should have noticed that. I wonder how much training she had to receive and did she have to pass some sort of a test to get the license? Not sure how that works. They said it was hundreds of live rounds. I didn't hear that, but it could have been. This is from The Blaze article. Mendoza said that 500 rounds of ammunition — a mix of blanks, dummy rounds, and suspected live rounds — were found on the set. Last edited by StoneCutter; 10/30/21. "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan

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