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So everything you read about this magical cartridge touts it as having significantly less recoil than other cartridges in the same category. Given that the most common factory hunting loads utilize 140 grain bullets, shouldn't it have pretty much the same felt recoil as something like the 7mm-08, .270 Win, and .308? Considering the same weight rifles, of course.
Maybe I thg has less recoil than some other "long-range" cartridges that would typically be used for long range target shooting and hunting? Where's the magic?

Just math. Google recoil calculator punch in the numbers see for yourself. Felt recoil is a different thing altogether.

Having a reloading manual handy helps also.

I have 2 of them, Thompson Center weather shield, they have almost no recoil, even with reloads and shoot great.

My daughter, 22 now, killed several deer with hers last year and it was her first year of hunting in her life. She killed on deer the year before with a 7MMSTW (muzzlebrake) but she loves her 6.5.

I always figured the recoil of a 300 magnum must hit some magical compounding formula because it seems exponential to me. I'd far rather shoot a 340 or 375 than any 300 magnum.

Well, I mean does anything of less caliber and powder than a 30-06 have any noticeable recoil provided the rifle is not overly lightweight or of a bad stock design? The Creedmoore is hardly unique there.

I didn't believe it either. I now have 2 rifles in 6.5 creed. They both shoot incredible soft in light weight guns. Softer than the calibers you stated. I have many rifles and the 6.5 recoil is very mild to me.

Probably very close regarding actual Ft./Lb of recoil. Lower recoil velocity is likely what many refer to when mentioning "lower felt recoil". "Push" vs. "Stab".

You cannot cheat physics. It's going to kick about like any other chambering with a similar case capacity, powder charge, chamber pressure, bullet weight, and velocity. So it will be quite close to a 7mm-08 or 257 Roberts if bullet weights and velocities are similar.

As some have said, the rifle matters. You can't shoot two different rifles in two different chamberings and not take into account the weight and fit of the gun, as well as the material of the stock and recoil pad.

I've shot my 6.5 Swede a bit, and it's recoil is extremely light vs .308, .270, or .30-06. The advantage of the 6.5 is the long bullets which tend to remain stable in flight over longer distances.

Yes. Before laser range finders "long range" cartridges relied on high velocity and increased bullet weight (not disregarding a streamlined shape) to maintain the velocity to flatten out trajectory and reduce wind drift. The flatter trajectory was considered essential since actual distance to the target was a guesstimated factor anywhere but a target range. A .300 WM or 7mm RM was a good long range chambering since they threw relatively heavy bullets at high velocity which helped to mitigate errors in range estimation.

Laser range finders and scopes with repeatable adjustments changed all that. Trajectory and bullet impact were always known quantities at any range, the range finders let folks find that range with precision so the more curved trajectory of a lower velocity bullet was not a handicap. Reading the wind is still a learned skill but modern bullets with extremely high SD's have helped that.

So, yes, the 6.5 Creedmoor does have less recoil than traditional long range calibers since the total weight of the ejecta is somewhat reduced, but actual recoil is still a matter of immutable physics so that cartridges with similar ejecta weight fired in rifles of similar weight will have similar recoil.

No magic, recoil feels like my 708 from the ones I've shot.

My 6.5 CM (Bergara B-14 Woodsman) kicks less than the .308Win (Win 70 Featherweight) that I had. Nothing scientific, shooting 140gr in the CM and 150 in the .308, similar velocities. The recoil difference is more than just noticeable. I don't have a .270 but a 30-06 and it is definitely a step above the CM in recoil. To me the recoil of the CM is more like a .243 Win.

The "magic" is in it being a mild, very accurate round. Case and bullet geometry are up to date and it works. It shoots medium bullets at medium velocities and kills medium game well. Nothing out of the ordinary, but maybe that is the magic. There are others that fit that bill as well, but the Creedmoor works and works well. I shoot it (and enjoy shooting it) more than any of my other centerfire rifles, which is what it's all about.

Maybe it's time to bite the bullet and get one, see for yourself.

Why would I get a Creedmoor? I have other superior cartridges for what I do.

"Superior" is relative. The qualifications have to be listed.

That.

6.5 CM in terms of power falls not far behind 7/08 and .270 Win and obviously ahead of .243 Win or .257 Roberts and it recoils as such.

Numbers never lie and they are easy to calculate!

Weight of the bullet, velocity, weight of the rifle

Personally, the 6.5 Creedmoor is a cream puff in terms of recoil.

Perhaps, you missed the qualifier in my statement.

For what you do is rather vague.

Recoil? And here I thought they shot themselves and never missed, according to what I've been told.