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Now the idiot “Armorer’s Attorneys are claiming “Sabotage”
That some disgruntled crew member stuck a life round in the box of “dummy rounds”
If this was just a “rehearsal’ as they’ve ALL CLAIMED” it was, why was their a “need” to have fake ammo in the gun ??? And as a “highly trained” Set Armorer, shouldn’t she know the difference between a live round and a “dummy round” ???
I’ll even go as far to say her dumbass and some of the other crew members were probably the ones target practicing with live ammo, before the supposed Rehearsal.
Sounds like more Bullschitt to me and that her Lawyers are trying to cover for her incompetent dumbass.
Gotta create some doubt for the Jury or Grand Jury To try and keep her stupid ass out of Jail.
She’ll be the one charged, if anybody is in a actual Criminal Case. Like I stated before, Baldwin’s arrogant ass, no matter how culpable, will skate on any Criminal Charges, because it happened in the Libertard Schitthole of Santa Fe. Book it. 😜 Here’s the Link: 'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...te-sabotage-deadly-alec-baldwin-shootingExplore the Fox News apps that are right for you at http://www.foxnews.com/apps-products/index.html.
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Now the idiot “Armorer’s Attorneys are claiming “Sabotage”
That some disgruntled crew member stuck a life round in the box of “dummy rounds”
If this was just a “rehearsal’ as they’ve ALL CLAIMED” it was, why was their a “need” to have fake ammo in the gun ??? And as a “highly trained” Set Armorer, shouldn’t she know the difference between a live round and a “dummy round” ???
I’ll even go as far to say her dumbass and some of the other crew members were probably the ones target practicing with live ammo, before the supposed Rehearsal.
Sounds like more Bullschitt to me and that her Lawyers are trying to cover for her incompetent dumbass.
Gotta create some doubt for the Jury or Grand Jury To try and keep her stupid ass out of Jail.
She’ll be the one charged, if anybody is in a actual Criminal Case. Like I stated before, Baldwin’s arrogant ass, no matter how culpable, will skate on any Criminal Charges, because it happened in the Libertard Schitthole of Santa Fe. Book it. 😜 Go look at some of the pics of dummy rounds. They even have primers. I could see that happening. And of course, you would need dummy rounds in a rehearsal. They are checking everything. They are setting up the shot. They want to see how things look on the camera and that includes the big pieces of lead in the cylinder. I guess the questions I would have to ask are about the alleged target shooting and the number of live rounds found on set. Did they actually go target shooting during their down time? How many live rounds were found? If there was a bunch of them, that’s one thing. If there were just a few or maybe even only that one, then that makes sabotage a lot easier to consider. As the Set’s Hired “Armorer”, she’s payed to know the difference between a Live Round and the “Dummy Round” And to keep the Cast and the Crew safe. She obviously failed miserably at her job. Like I stated before, a totally incompetent Twit that didn’t know schitt from shinola about guns or ammo. Much less about Gun Safety. She only got hired because of her Dad’s famous name and previous career as a famous Hollyweird Armor, and Quick Draw Champion. Or because she was blowing Baldwin. 😜
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident. She's just grasping at straws and deflecting. Had she been doing her job, even the sabotage she speaks of couldn't happen. She should have personally checked the loads and handed the gun directly to Baldwin with a declaration of status. By her own admission, she was negligent.
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident. She's just grasping at straws and deflecting. Had she been doing her job, even the sabotage she speaks of couldn't happen. She should have personally checked the loads and handed the gun directly to Baldwin with a declaration of status. By her own admission, she was negligent. PREZACTLY !!!
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident. She's just grasping at straws and deflecting. Had she been doing her job, even the sabotage she speaks of couldn't happen. She should have personally checked the loads and handed the gun directly to Baldwin with a declaration of status. By her own admission, she was negligent. This ^^^ for the 20th time. Standard protocols were broken, the armorer is in charge, the guns should have been locked up if the armorer wasn't supervising weapons and ammo. For the Assistant Director to step in and hand the gun to an idiot actor, certainly isn't the standard safety protocol either. Did Baldwin pull the trigger, yes of course he did. But negligence took place by professionals before it ever hit his hand, they have a far larger level of legal responsibility that the actor. After the 90 interviews of the people on set, we will know the full truth of what took place...this will take years before action is taken.
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I simply refuse to believe he has never had any type of firearm training, let alone didn't "know" he should check a gun whenever it is handed to him. M1911A1 The Hunt for Red October Smith & Wesson Model 36 Miami Blues Desert Eagle Miami Blues Colt MK IV Series 80 Combat Elite Carter The Getaway Benelli M3 Super 90 The Getaway LAR Grizzly Win Mag The Shadow Colt MK IV Series 80 Heaven's Prisoners Mossberg 500 Heaven's Prisoners Beretta Model 70 The Juror Ruger Mk II The Juror Colt M1911A1 The Juror Lorcin L25 The Juror Winchester Model 1886 The Edge SIG-Sauer P226 Mercury Rising Colt Gold Cup National Match Thick as Thieves 12 Gauge Over/Under Shotgun Fun with Dick and Jane Jericho 941 Mission: Impossible - Fallout Lots of people screwed up. Baldwin's screw up was the biggest. He owns it. Great post!!
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I think "sabotage" is the most likely outcome, there were disgruntled crew members that walked off the job that very day.
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I think "sabotage" is the most likely outcome, there were disgruntled crew members that walked off the job that very day. Very unlikely.
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I think "sabotage" is the most likely outcome, there were disgruntled crew members that walked off the job that very day. Very unlikely. Why very unlikely? People do stupid sh it all the time, and this is an episode of stupid sh it already
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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I think "sabotage" is the most likely outcome, there were disgruntled crew members that walked off the job that very day. Very unlikely. So now you seem to be saying personal responsibility means nothing and are protecting the trigger puller and now blaming the "armorer" who should have been fired by Baldwin when the first AD happened, sabotage is out of the question?
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Sabotage is possible, but never underestimate the power of stupidity and incompetence! The simplest theory is usually the correct theory. Somebody on the cast, possibly several of them, were using the gun to shoot targets, plinking beer cans or whatever. The armorer, Who’s responsible for the firearms used in the film, was either with them or looking the other way. There had been two previous incidents of “accidental discharges on the set, possibly involving live ammo. There was even more live ammo discovered on the set by the investigators. Incompetence, negligence, stupidity, any and all these words are descriptive. The armorer, the assistant director, and the idiot who pointed a gun at another person and cocked it and pulled the trigger, each have a helluvalot of explaining to do. A mother and wife is dead. Another person was injured. There should be serious repercussions for each of these individuals. I don’t know where most of the blame lies, but hopefully an investigation followed by a criminal trial would, IMO, be appropriate. 7mm
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Sabotage is possible, but never underestimate the power of stupidity and incompetence! The simplest theory is usually the correct theory. Somebody on the cast, possibly several of them, were using the gun to shoot targets, plinking beer cans or whatever. The armorer, Who’s responsible for the firearms used in the film, was either with them or looking the other way. There had been two previous incidents of “accidental discharges on the set, possibly involving live ammo. There was even more live ammo discovered on the set by the investigators. Incompetence, negligence, stupidity, any and all these words are descriptive. The armorer, the assistant director, and the idiot who pointed a gun at another person and cocked it and pulled the trigger, each have a helluvalot of explaining to do. A mother and wife is dead. Another person was injured. There should be serious repercussions for each of these individuals. I don’t know where most of the blame lies, but hopefully an investigation followed by a criminal trial would, IMO, be appropriate. 7mm
Thank you, I see irresponsible handling of ammo(not knowing the difference between live and blanks)a much more feasible scenario than an upset worker sabotaging a gun to kill an unknown victim. Logic and reasoning doesn't seem to be prevalent in this thread, just the hatred of an idiot anti-gun actor.
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More than one person can be criminally liable in a case. It is not either or.
The production company will be civilly liable, lots of insurance companies will be pointing fingers.
If sabotage, that would be an intentional act, ie murder.
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More than one person can be criminally liable in a case. It is not either or.
The production company will be civilly liable, lots of insurance companies will be pointing fingers.
If sabotage, that would be an intentional act, ie murder. Agree %100, and Baldwin shares in the guilt...but he's not at the top of the pyramid.
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It's hard to keep up with all those shooty things when you're trying to figure out all your pronouns.
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Looks like the armorer's lawyers have submitted changes her original statement:
She's now claiming the gun was left unattended for 5-10 minutes, and somebody sabotaged the box of blank ammo by inserting live rounds in the box. Of course it needs to be noted that she's the one that's supposed to insert said "ammo" into gun, and not leave weapons "unattended" at any time.
When all else fails,,,,,,lie.
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Looks like the armorer's lawyers have submitted changes her original statement:
She's now claiming the gun was left unattended for 5-10 minutes, and somebody sabotaged the box of blank ammo by inserting live rounds in the box. Of course it needs to be noted that she's the one that's supposed to insert said "ammo" into gun, and not leave weapons "unattended" at any time.
When all else fails,,,,,,lie. Yep. Just trying to cover her sorry incompetent dumbass. She’s the twit that should be held mostly responsible for this cluster Fuqk. It was her sole job to keep the guns safe and arrogant asswipes like Baldwin from killing someone.
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Now the idiot “Armorer’s Attorneys are claiming “Sabotage”
That some disgruntled crew member stuck a life round in the box of “dummy rounds”
If this was just a “rehearsal’ as they’ve ALL CLAIMED” it was, why was their a “need” to have fake ammo in the gun ??? And as a “highly trained” Set Armorer, shouldn’t she know the difference between a live round and a “dummy round” ???
I’ll even go as far to say her dumbass and some of the other crew members were probably the ones target practicing with live ammo, before the supposed Rehearsal.
Sounds like more Bullschitt to me and that her Lawyers are trying to cover for her incompetent dumbass.
Gotta create some doubt for the Jury or Grand Jury To try and keep her stupid ass out of Jail.
She’ll be the one charged, if anybody is in a actual Criminal Case. Like I stated before, Baldwin’s arrogant ass, no matter how culpable, will skate on any Criminal Charges, because it happened in the Libertard Schitthole of Santa Fe. Book it. 😜 Go look at some of the pics of dummy rounds. They even have primers. I could see that happening. And of course, you would need dummy rounds in a rehearsal. They are checking everything. They are setting up the shot. They want to see how things look on the camera and that includes the big pieces of lead in the cylinder. I guess the questions I would have to ask are about the alleged target shooting and the number of live rounds found on set. Did they actually go target shooting during their down time? How many live rounds were found? If there was a bunch of them, that’s one thing. If there were just a few or maybe even only that one, then that makes sabotage a lot easier to consider. As the Set’s Hired “Armorer”, she’s payed to know the difference between a Live Round and the “Dummy Round” And to keep the Cast and the Crew safe. She obviously failed miserably at her job. Like I stated before, a totally incompetent Twit that didn’t know schitt from shinola about guns or ammo. Much less about Gun Safety. She only got hired because of her Dad’s famous name and previous career as a famous Hollyweird Armor, and Quick Draw Champion. Or because she was blowing Baldwin. 😜 Wouldn't he be old enough to be her granddad rather than her dad?
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Now the idiot “Armorer’s Attorneys are claiming “Sabotage”
That some disgruntled crew member stuck a life round in the box of “dummy rounds”
If this was just a “rehearsal’ as they’ve ALL CLAIMED” it was, why was their a “need” to have fake ammo in the gun ??? And as a “highly trained” Set Armorer, shouldn’t she know the difference between a live round and a “dummy round” ???
I’ll even go as far to say her dumbass and some of the other crew members were probably the ones target practicing with live ammo, before the supposed Rehearsal.
Sounds like more Bullschitt to me and that her Lawyers are trying to cover for her incompetent dumbass.
Gotta create some doubt for the Jury or Grand Jury To try and keep her stupid ass out of Jail.
She’ll be the one charged, if anybody is in a actual Criminal Case. Like I stated before, Baldwin’s arrogant ass, no matter how culpable, will skate on any Criminal Charges, because it happened in the Libertard Schitthole of Santa Fe. Book it. 😜 Go look at some of the pics of dummy rounds. They even have primers. I could see that happening. And of course, you would need dummy rounds in a rehearsal. They are checking everything. They are setting up the shot. They want to see how things look on the camera and that includes the big pieces of lead in the cylinder. I guess the questions I would have to ask are about the alleged target shooting and the number of live rounds found on set. Did they actually go target shooting during their down time? How many live rounds were found? If there was a bunch of them, that’s one thing. If there were just a few or maybe even only that one, then that makes sabotage a lot easier to consider. As the Set’s Hired “Armorer”, she’s payed to know the difference between a Live Round and the “Dummy Round” And to keep the Cast and the Crew safe. She obviously failed miserably at her job. Like I stated before, a totally incompetent Twit that didn’t know schitt from shinola about guns or ammo. Much less about Gun Safety. She only got hired because of her Dad’s famous name and previous career as a famous Hollyweird Armor, and Quick Draw Champion. Or because she was blowing Baldwin. 😜 Wouldn't he be old enough to be her granddad rather than her dad? LOL. Yep or GreatGrandDad if it was Tennessee. 😜
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