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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Get a grip, they weren’t protecting a darn thing. Shoot first, ask questions later. They are just plain and simple ignorant men.

You have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. That's not what happened. One of the men was armed with a shotgun, fully within his rights. The perp grabbed it, and in the struggle for control, the perp was shot. When the perp grabbed his shotgun, what was he supposed to do? Let him have it?


If someone tried to kidnap me at gunpoint, I'd fight back too.

Are you a burglar, with a rap sheet the length of your arm, pretending to be a jogger in work boots?

Hadn't watched the trial or read any editorial on the case.
Was he convicted of various crimes?


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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi

Does it matter?

It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society.

Name the state in which the laws apply as you stated....

OK, Georgia (before they changed the law as a result of this case.)

Two years ago, Georgia law allowed any citizen to stop at gunpoint any other citizen whom they might suspect was guilty of a crime at some date in the past???????

Felony? Misdemeanor? Vague suspicion? Sure and certain knowledge? Observation?

None of that mattered?

You have to witness the crime, see it in action....suspicion or guesses won't hold up in court. What was the first thing the guy said in the 911 call ?.... "operator" what do you have to report ?'......"Idiot" there's a black guy running through our neighborhood.

Did any of you actually watch the trial and listen to recording and see the video ?

lol

That was one of my questions above that went unanswered.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Two years ago, Georgia law allowed any citizen to stop at gunpoint any other citizen whom they might suspect was guilty of a crime at some date in the past???????

There you go making up false facts again. No one pointed a gun at anyone till the gun was grabbed and a struggle for it ensued.


He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away....but ok nobody pointed a gun or threatened anyone first

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Brandishing Hawkeye, Brandishing.

Most states have a legal definition, of which I am quite assured you are aware.

The shotgun was carried for self-defense. How is he supposed to conceal a shotgun? Not brandishing. Besides, you said gunpoint.

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Anyone have a link to the original video released by the senior McMichael in the misguided attempt to gain sympathy for the actions of his son.

Wow, what an idiot. He sure miscalculated that one.


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I do find it telling, how a bunch of blacks at work were literally crying over the zimmerman verdict. And the Minnesota BS....a few states away.

But never said chit about 8 and 12 yr old black kids killed 50 miles away in crossfire, innocent bystanders, killed by their own color.

Freakin children.

And nobody says chit.
Its always attention whoring no matter what with some folks.... cry for leverage or money.

Zero true compassion.

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He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source?

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Brandishing Hawkeye, Brandishing.

Most states have a legal definition, of which I am quite assured you are aware.

The shotgun was carried for self-defense. How is he supposed to conceal a shotgun? Not brandishing. Besides, you said gunpoint.


If you do not know how to carry a shotgun in a nonthreatening manner versus a threatening manner, you really should sell every gun you own for your own good.

It is not a subtle distinction.

As a matter of fact, I have carried an uncased shotgun down city sidewalks in a nonthreatening manner several times, and nobody batted an eye.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi

Does it matter?

It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society.

Name the state in which the laws apply as you stated....

OK, Georgia (before they changed the law as a result of this case.)

Two years ago, Georgia law allowed any citizen to stop at gunpoint any other citizen whom they might suspect was guilty of a crime at some date in the past???????

Felony? Misdemeanor? Vague suspicion? Sure and certain knowledge? Observation?

None of that mattered?

You have to witness the crime, see it in action....suspicion or guesses won't hold up in court. What was the first thing the guy said in the 911 call ?.... "operator" what do you have to report ?'......"Idiot" there's a black guy running through our neighborhood.

Did any of you actually watch the trial and listen to recording and see the video ?

lol

That was one of my questions above that went unanswered.


Of course it went unanswered, they're making up facts that are against the law as they post.

12 white jurors convicted 3 white men with a white judge, in a state where if you were a black guy you'd be running for your life too....I know I would be, chiit they'll string me up from the closest tree.

There's video tape of him in the construction site house, and walking out with nothing...there was nothing stolen. Then they claimed somebody stole something out of a boat a few weeks earlier, so it had to be that black guy...let's get a posse together with our white hoods and chase that tree monkey down.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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Brandishing Hawkeye, Brandishing.

Most states have a legal definition, of which I am quite assured you are aware.

The shotgun was carried for self-defense. How is he supposed to conceal a shotgun? Not brandishing. Besides, you said gunpoint.


If you do not know how to carry a shotgun in a nonthreatening manner versus a threatening manner, you really should sell every gun you own for your own good.

It is not a subtle distinction.

As a matter of fact, I have carried an uncased shotgun down city sidewalks in a nonthreatening manner several times, and nobody batted an eye.

At the ready isn't brandishing.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bwana_1

He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source?


It was on the video tape, that they taped from their phone.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bwana_1

He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source?

I stumbled across an internet search engine called Google a few days ago. I have a hunch if you searched something like Arbery blow your head off, you'd find it.

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Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bwana_1

He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source?

I stumbled across an internet search engine called Google a few days ago. I have a hunch if you searched something like Arbery blow your head off, you'd find it.



First I've heard of it.

"Google??"



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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Brandishing Hawkeye, Brandishing.

Most states have a legal definition, of which I am quite assured you are aware.

The shotgun was carried for self-defense. How is he supposed to conceal a shotgun? Not brandishing. Besides, you said gunpoint.


If you do not know how to carry a shotgun in a nonthreatening manner versus a threatening manner, you really should sell every gun you own for your own good.

It is not a subtle distinction.

As a matter of fact, I have carried an uncased shotgun down city sidewalks in a nonthreatening manner several times, and nobody batted an eye.

At the ready isn't brandishing.


It sure as [bleep] is when you have been chasing a man through the city streets screaming death threats at him.

It has been several months since I watched the video, and I can not review it today with present bandwidth. But as I remember, it showed McMichaels being very aggressive, including brandishing while Arbery did nothing except that which could be explained by fear.

Am I mistaken in my memory that younger McMichael was standing in the back of the pickup with his shotgun while his dad drove to pursue Arbery?


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bwana_1

He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source?

I stumbled across an internet search engine called Google a few days ago. I have a hunch if you searched something like Arbery blow your head off, you'd find it.



First I've heard of it.

"Google??"

He admitted it on the stand, but said he was just trying to stop the kid from running.

Did any of you actually WATCH the trial ????

And nobody has responded to the FACT that he shot 3 times, striking him 2 of the 3 times with slugs....yeah he was holding the barrel lol

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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bwana_1

He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source?

I stumbled across an internet search engine called Google a few days ago. I have a hunch if you searched something like Arbery blow your head off, you'd find it.



First I've heard of it.

"Google??"

He admitted it on the stand, but said he was just trying to stop the kid from running.

Did any of you actually WATCH the trial ????

And nobody has responded to the FACT that he shot 3 times, striking him 2 of the 3 times with slugs....yeah he was holding the barrel lol


LOL, I'm not arguing with you man, but can you tell me more about this "google" thing??



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bwana_1

He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source?

I stumbled across an internet search engine called Google a few days ago. I have a hunch if you searched something like Arbery blow your head off, you'd find it.



First I've heard of it.

"Google??"

He admitted it on the stand, but said he was just trying to stop the kid from running.

Did any of you actually WATCH the trial ????

And nobody has responded to the FACT that he shot 3 times, striking him 2 of the 3 times with slugs....yeah he was holding the barrel lol


LOL, I'm not arguing with you man, but can you tell me more about this "google" thing??


I didn't look it up on Google, I saw him say it on the stand...straight from the horses mouth. They played vigilante justice without cause, and got convicted. The kid was running for his life scared chiitless, not saying he was an angel...but he hadn't committed a crime deserving of getting shot.

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I agree with you. My post was in response to you saying you'd stumbled across this new thing called an "internet search engine" apparently called "google."

First I've heard of an engine that can search for things, so I'm skeptical. If it's true, then just anybody could educate himself on the facts, and that just don't seem right.


Ah sh*t, I just realized it was cluggins who said that!!! Apologies bwana.

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It's all over Google from court reporters from all media, he said it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/05/ahmaud-arbery-trial-opening-arguments/

“Stop, I’ll blow your f---ing head off,” Greg McMichael told police he warned Arbery


EDIT: Google help
https://www.google.com/search?q=McMichael+told+ahmaud+arbery+%22ill+blow+your+head+off%22&client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=ILaeYerALLawytMPx9650A4&ved=0ahUKEwjq0LP0_7H0AhU2mHIEHUdvDuoQ4dUDCA0&oq=McMichael+told+ahmaud+arbery+%22ill+blow+your+head+off%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAw6BwgAELADEEM6BwgAELADEB46BQgAEIAEOgYIABAHEB46CggAELEDEIMBEAo6BQgAEM0CSgQIQRgBUKkKWMPQAWDF7QFoAXAAeACAAaoBiAG5IpIBBDIuMzWYAQCgAQGgAQLIAQLAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz

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