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Well this is worrisome. I hope to go back to South Africa next year. Countries are banning flights already over fears about this new variant. Hope it gets sorted out and is not as bad as feared. My 2020 trip was postponed to 2021. I’ll be 80 in February so postponing things is becoming more problematic. 😉

By 2022 hunting season this “variant” will have run its course. By then we will have a new variant.

Short term, this may effect outfitters coming in for the big shows in January.

GOING TO BE CONSTANT VARIANTS. This will never end. As planned. Going to break every business until the deep state does the great reset.

Qanon membership paid up??

Well, what do you think happened? Maybe some Chinaman ate some raw bat sushi and spread a bat disease around town that inadvertently got to Italy and the U.S. brought by Chinese travelers that went to Wuhan for the Chinese New Year celebration? Or you reckon that bioweapon lab had something to do with it?

WoodsyAl; I’m pulling for you brother!! Hopefully we’ve (the powers that be) learned a thing or two on how to sort these things out quickly.

Best of luck in getting the trip to happen.

GRF

This is a terrible gut punch for African hunting. I fear that many safari operators who hung on for the last 2 seasons may not make it through yet another year if this travel ban stays in place very long. I’m making a wild ass guess that this negatively affects 75% of all safari companies and PH’s.

I have a safari in Zimbabwe coming up in august of 2022.

Like you, I hope this is sorted out quickly.

Bad enough if you need to cancel, but just imagine being over there right now and trapped with no flight out. Do you get a mud hut for the duration of the new pandemic? Maybe fly out through Europe somewhere, but the news this morning said that 61 folks from South Africa just flew into the Netherlands and tested positive for Covid! Damn, here we go again.

I hope it gets worked out before September 2022.

The variants will continue until compliance is achieved.

The sad part about post like this is, so many think this is not happening.

Wake the fugg up !

It doesn’t take “Q” to tell you the diff betwixed rain and piss !

Africa’s Ministry of Health already said the symptoms and cases are very mild.

Take your woketard Biden schit over to CNN

Observe that this fearsome variant is in the southernmost part of Africa, where Ivermectrin (for river blindness) and Hydroxychloroquine (for malaria) are not really in use.

Most of the endemic malarial and parasitic diseases, worldwise (let alone Africa) are in a band 20 degrees north and south of the equator.

Southern Africa wthere this mutation originated (apparently) is well south of that "dew line". As far as I can discern, MSM prognisticators, upset that Africa managed to escape the brunt of he COVID non-plague, are pinning their hopes on the wonderfulness of the news that even Africans can contract COVID, and children no less, and ignore this inconvenient fact.

Reminds me of foreigners getting off the plane in New York, wondering why they are not seeing cowboys.

It's just politcs, not science, as far as I can discern.

Someone had an article, I think Fox News, that they had an interview with a South African doctor. He said the new version has milder symptoms than the first two variants, no deaths, and no hospitalizations, no loss of smell or taste. Symptoms were muscle aches, a mild cough, with a week to 10 days of rest. Seems like it has mutated down. Shots don't work because of so many deviations in the genetic make up.

Yep, this will be with us for years. Chairman She has screwed the World to his laughter. And Fauci is complicit.

She said it did show increased pulse rate, but other than that it sounds like a regular cold.

No need for qanon membership, you can see the globalized efforts of our corrupt government along with other countries rushing for the great reset with all these “ variants “ coming down the pipe.

Correct !

The variant we get soon is NOT the Omni, it will be masked as such. Will go from lungs to brains.

This is what the scientist on Camp Stanley say.

We’re headed over to P.E. the last week of April, wife and I are hoping this is just a blip

Where you headed for in P. E. Cheers NC

Two Waters

WoodsyAl; better news all the time

-the new variant seems less potent.
-it has now been found in Holland with a date of origin prior to being found in RSA

Should mean it was found in RSA but not originated in RSA.

I’m feeling more posting about your trip Al!

Here’s a quote from a gentleman in RSA

Ouch!!!
Once again the world's media is reporting: "South Africa has a new Covid variant" as if the variant started here and is infecting us all.
CAN I SAY THIS AGAIN, MORE LOUDLY FOR THE IDIOT JOURNALISTS AT THE BACK: South Africa has one of the
most sophisticated and advanced infectious diseases
infrastructure on the planet. Some of the world's leading
epidemiologists work in South Africa. We've had to
develop these capabilities to deal with TB and AIDS and
other diseases ravaging our continent.
It is no surprise that our medical system is the first in the
world to identify new Covid variants. It is no surprise that
we led the world in clinical trials of vaccines.
What IS a surprise is how lazy journalists write headlines:
"New Covid variant in South Africa". No, this new Covid
variant has been found in New Zealand, England, Brazil,
France, India, Indonesia, the Philippines and other places
South African scientists isolated, sequenced and
understood it first. Report THAT fact, but don't start all
over again with putting "South Africa is unsafe" into
people's heads.

Graeme Codrington, South African author, futurist and strategy consultant, founding director of strategic insights firm, TomorrowToday.

OMICRON unscrambled is MORONIC.

And the next up letter, Xi, got canned for obvious reasons.

Can't upset Chairman of the CCP, home of the original Rona, the gift that keeps on giving....

DF

I want to head back to Zim but will give it another couple of years.

GRF, yes recent news is encouraging and I haven’t given up on believing I can make the trip, especially if it is later in the year. Thanks for pulling for me!

There is still a lot we don’t know. I expect we will find that current vaccines offer some level of protection, and there will be work that does not start from scratch to develop vaccines that will work better. We’ll have to see what governments and airlines do.

I have to say that when I was in South Africa during September, COVID was being taken much more seriously there than here. Masks were everywhere and whenever you entered any building there was someone offering hand sanitizer.

Found the same in Namibia and Botswana in September. They are definitely taking it more seriously than we are, mainly because vaccines and good hospital care aren’t readily available.

Seems to me it doesn't really matter whether your vaxed or not. You can still get it, transmit it, and die from it. Maybe I'm missing something?

Wife and I just back from a 4-park, 11 day photo safari in Tanzania, postponed from last year. We went despite what our government said- just short of an outright ban on it ..... Snuck back into US just in time it looks like. Amsterdam had 16 positives off a flight from SA the day before we passed through.

More bogus overblown BS, IMO. It won't stop until the reset is accomplished. Viruses get less dangerous and powerful as they mutate, almost always. The same cannot be said for media hype, driven by th same talking points given them from above. Buy pharmaceutical! Follow the money......

Our guide said the business was 20% of what it was before C19 was loosed on the world by the Wuhan lab. And that as the recovery from last year when it was virtually nil. We probably overtiped shamelessly, everyone from our guide to the restroom attendants (cleanest restrooms anywhere on the trip were in Africa, even in the bush camps).

We of course had to be fully vaccinated, with paperwork up the kazoo and more paperwork on top of that. In Amsterdam we had to sign a paper certifying that we had our paperwork before we could board for JFK..... but no one asked to see the actual test results from the day-before test.

Beaurocracy at it's .....?best?.

Once we left the Kilmanjaro Airport, we didn't wear masks until we got back there, per our guide's advice. Our greatest risks, as I projected before the trip, were in the airports, planes, and the day we spent in NYC.

Civilization is overrated, and hazardous to your health.

Yes, the mortality rate is supposed to be much lower for the vaccinated.

I read 40% of the people dying in Maryland are fully vaxxed. So, I guess you can say they have less of a chance of dying, but not much. Also, a new study out of England shows those who are vaxxed have a worse chance at heart attacks and at a younger age. Further study needed to confirm it.

I’ll take a 40% chance of death versus a 60% chance any day of the week.

Well, being vaxed doesn't keep you from dying from Covid, contracting it, or spreading it, and masks are a farce. Those who've had the so called vaccine are guinea pigs, period. Time will tell how the guinea pigs are affected.

Last numbers I saw, mortality rates from Covid were less than .5% for everyone, vaxed or not.

Where do you come up with that?

Also, if people were treated as soon as diagnosed instead of told to come back when you can't breath 85% of those dead would have been saved according to an article in the Epoch Times.

LOL
I’ll take things that didn’t age well for $1000 Alex….

The ONLY thing funnier was the spin afterwards

What countries are banning flights?

Ya reckon they saving the big one for the election.

DF

unfortunately its time to quit worrying about hunting and get a way to reset governments again to where they should be. then we can go back to hunting. one is much harder than the other.

otoh if things shut down and you can't hunt, then you don't need your guns either so turn those in.... plans of the corrupt.

And if they still believe in masks there is part of the problem. I've guided folks way up the food chain in this stuff and every last one of them says masks are to alter behavior patterns. they do nothing at all to stop the spread.

I think Africa has enough starvation, war, and disease to allow a little Covid to go completely unnoticed.

Africa evidently uses a lot of Hydroxychloroquin for Malaria control and treatment. Of course CDC said it doesn’t work for the ‘Rona.

And India and South America use a lot of Ivermectin for parasites. Their ‘Rona numbers were pretty good considering third world medicine. But according to CDC Ivermectin doesn’t work with ‘Rona.

Neither drug works because they’re cheap, abundant and get in the way of a multi billion dollar big pharma money heist. And for sure big govt got their cut, all at our expense.

Oh well.

DF

I don't think any countries are banning flights now. This thread was started in 2021 back when the Delta variant was widespread and there were some flight bans.

Thankfully that's over, at least for now. But I imagine that there are those who would like to see an excuse for more lockdowns.

Another pearl from this Fauci/Biden loving, Trump hating, woketard dumbass.

Exactly.

Best comments on this thread.

The government has the sheep scared to death of catching a cold. If you had your flu shots and boosters make sure to take Remdesivir if you get COVID, after all it's approved by the CDC.

My Daughter just returned from a Business trip to Kenya, with COVID !!!!

I think both Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are used pretty commonly in Africa and that may have an impact. I tried to buy some Ivermectin when I was in Mozambique and South Africa in 2022 but was unable to find any in the limited time I had to shop. But the PH I hunted with said they bought Ivermectin liquid from veterinary stores and used that.

The other big factor in relation to death rates in Africa is that the populations in almost all countries are very young with small numbers of elderly people. Young people are at very little risk from Covid and the death rate for that demographic is very low.

Interesting how other countries deemed third world have effective medicine compared to what is in the US. Makes you wonder or maybe confirm what you already believe. I recall a story I heard on a hunting podcast of a hunter who was in a country outside of the USA that got hurt hunting and got an infection. He was treated with an antibiotic and was able to come back home. His regular doctor,who was a friend, told him that he was lucky he was treated outside the USA with such a good antibiotic because it likely saved him. Makes you wonder.

Pretty much all the mainline antibiotics are easily available in Africa in addition to Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin. I make three to four trip a year and carry lots of medication back home. Most prescriptions are cents per dose.

US consumers pay for the rest of the world.

My full coverage medical insurance in Namibia including emergency evac costs $53/month.

Question on that. How do you get that on your health insurance. I’m thinking the obvious and call them up and tel them you want it added. Or is it something that is separate that you need to get on your own.

It is through a Namibian insurer. I have permanence in Namibia so a simple matter to apply for it. You can also get a policy under a work permit. Otherwise, you cannot get insured under a full policy, however, there are short term (vacationer) policies I believe.

Thanks. Good to know that such a thing exists.

Who in their right mind would want any permanance in Namibia, or anywhere else in Africa? What would possess you to do that?

Likely enjoys it there and probably has some sort of hunting gig there. I’ve seen expats in places like Belize and Panama. Guessing it’s similar. I’d do the same in Belize if you could still hunt jaguar and the numbers supported it. Great fishing and the local people are friendly.

This aged well. Yeah the magical vaccines prevented you from contracting and spreading covid. dumb and dumber


lol

another covtard fake vax worshipper

How many countries have you visited and/or hunted in Africa?