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If she’s living with him then it’s her home too. That’s a BS argument.

Not to mention, relationships with step kids, whose father you just killed.

From what I gather, it's the woman's house, new dude moved in.

Quite obviously, at this point in time.

https://www.texasobserver.org/joe-horn-and-castle-doctrine-shootings-in-texas/


Joe Horn shot both in the back in broad daylight because they were stealing from his neighbor and he walked

This is in Texad and Texas law

Hope she has a marketable skill. Alimony gone, man of the house potentially headed to prison. Kids to care for.

Feel for the children.

i hope the shooter walks.

She moved in with him but it’s still her residence.

I hope little man gets it broke off in his ass.

Where are you seeing that? I've watched the video in the OP and the other one posted and all you see is the shooter firing, then a second later the other guy lying on the porch. I haven't seen anything that shows the shootee's immediate reaction to the shot, just standing one second, lying down a couple of seconds later.

Not arguing over your post, just curious if there is another video on the web that shows the whole scene.

This. Even if they'd de-escalated the situation, I would feel sorry for those kids.

The little guy walks

Yeah, but did the boyfriend ever really have the “right” to go on the lawn with a gun, in the FIRST PLACE. Unless the Dad was threatening to physically harm the ex-wife, or stealing something, “deadly force” wasn’t an option.

Did Dad have right to be there to get his kids? Likely yes.

Did Mom have legal obligation to have kids there, ready to go? Yes

Was Mom violating court order/breaking law/ “kidnapping” kids? Possibly

Was there a REASON for mom and ex-boyfriend to go OUTSIDE and “escalate” argument?? No

Does boyfriend have “right” to take gun outside to chase off trespasser (when there was INITIALLY a physical barrier between them)?? No

Should Dad have walked back to his car, called cops, and had them sort it out?? Yes

Sad situation all around. But like others stated, the victim was refusing to leave and was verbally confrontational, then became physically confrontational after the gun was introduced going so far as to grabbing for the gun.

Bottom line, IMHO and not being a legal scholar, all of this could have been prevented simply by not letting emotion to override common sense:

1. If you are unarmed and an armed person tells you to leave their property then LEAVE!
2. If you are having a custody situation then it's a matter for the COURTS.
3. Never ever ever use hostility to confront a person on their property.
4. The victim was hostile sure, but not being physical so the property owner should probably have had his wife/girlfriend wait in the house until police arrive.

With all that said and done, I'm hot headed and probably would have done the same thing as the home owner. I would not have put up with that loudmouth POS on my property either!

He should have been if he wasn't... (and should have immediately left the premises.)

The other guy wasn't fuggin' around.

The lady taking the video has an interesting reaction. Instead of reacting in horror or fear at seeing another person shot, apparently someone she came with and has a personal interest in, she just starts throwing blame. "I have it on video, Kyle, you did it, not him." Perhaps I'm misunderstanding her level of compassion for a dying man?

I’m sure he will.

His ex-wife is a judge. He probably knows a thing or two about Texas law.

STEALING. All the Dad was doing, initially, after being asked to leave, was TRESPASSING. The Mom and boyfriend had a right to “defend their castle” (home), but do they have a right to go OUTSIDE (around physical barrier) to ESCALATE the situation??

Boyfriend was on the porch until deceased slung him into the yards and then he was shot

I’m sticking with that.

Who the eyes of the law sees as the "aggressor" is the real question.

Even in Texas. Even with the Castle Doctrine.