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Referring to Mike r response.
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Ignore Clausewitz, Tyson and Ayoob. Failure to plan is planning to fail. Practice, practice, practice. He who hesitates is lost.
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I can't speak to anything Ayboob ever said (and you should be embarrassed by including his name with the other two) but I believe you are taking Clausewitz and Tyson's quotes greatly out of context.
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Referring to Mike r response. Can't figure out the reply button but wants to have conversations about taking a human life in the defense of another. Interesting.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.-Richard Henry Lee
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Our resident Southern Florida Oracle has spoken. You and Flave BBQ together ? 🦫
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Are you fully vaccinated? LOL Who wants to know, the vaccine police? Oh, I forgot, you are the vaccine police. "LOL"
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Very profound délavé oh an lol
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Who wants to know, the vaccine police?
Oh, I forgot, you are the vaccine police.
"LOL"
My point is that you are a dumb fugk. Write that down.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Very profound délavé oh an lol DYING to read your question. LOL
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Our resident Southern Florida Oracle has spoken. You and Flave BBQ together ? 🦫 He's from Wisconsin. He doesn't know what BBQ is. LOL
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And you have bought into the BS narrative the prosecution presented. Attempting a Citizens Arrest is not false imprisonment. Arbery had two choices: 1. Comply and wait for the police or 2. Attack those who were attempting a citizens arrest. He choose poorly. And as I said, 20 years ago this wouldn't have made the news. There are thousands of similar cases that never were prosecuted. We live in different times. I have no sympathy whatsoever for Arbery - https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/...facts-the-jury-will-probably-never-hear/If nothing else, you help make my point that after you pull the trigger, the "reasonable" standard no longer belongs to you. Listening to Barnes talk about it, he said a pretty astute statement - first, ask yourself if you really believe citizens have a right to perform a citizens arrest? If you see a rape going on , do you not do anything and call the police? so if you assume a citizen has the right to perform a citizens arrest, then put a police uniform on the McMichaels. Someone calls them and says they believe a felony is happening, the suspect is described and known in the neighborhood as someone suspected of committing past felonies, they arrive and once confronted about being detained until it can sorted out by proper authorities , flees. When confronted, he goes after a weapon and is shot. No police officer would be going to trial over that. also, as he explains it, the Georgia Law as it relates to escaping a felony goes back to the civil war era. The prosecutor essentially made up the the idea the law says you have to see a felony occurring to perform a citizens arrest. Attempting to or actually escaping felony has no time limit under the law. The escape part was specifically written to address slaves escaping and it has nothing to do with escaping a felony that just happened. Finally, I guess there is some ambiguity but the use of a firearm , in this case, one that isn't concealed and is legal, would be used for self defense. While I'm sure wink wink nod nod they only used it for self defense in the attempted detaining of Arbery, the stand your ground laws and open carry are pretty clear in Georgia. If it weren't for that video, I think many people agree they wouldn't have been prosecuted. This goes back to the need to know the law. GA law at the time did not allow the McMichaels to effect a citizens arrest on Arbery in the way that they did based upon what Arbery had done. That's why they were charged and convicted on felony false imprisonment charges. Arming yourself for self defense carries with it terrible responsibilities. Arming yourself to effect citizens arrest, more so yet. And again, the prosecution was successful in quashing Arbery's criminal past and the fact that Arbery was targeting the neighborhood for many months and had an arrest record detailing his criminal past. The McMichael's had prior knowledge of this, had strong suspicion that Arbery was the perp and in the face of the facts was within their rights to attempt a Citizen's Arrest - which at the time was perfectly legal in Georgia. Unfortunately for the McMichael's they picked the wrong decade to exercise their rights to protect themselves and property and unfortunately had a moron videoing the episode. It's a damn shame when the law stands in the way of a good fuggking modern day lynching isn't it.
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Who wants to know, the vaccine police?
Oh, I forgot, you are the vaccine police.
"LOL"
My point is that you are a dumb fugk. Write that down. My point is, blow me.
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If you had $10K and a penis, I just might. LOL Write that down.
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It's a damn shame when the law stands in the way of a good fuggking modern day lynching isn't it.
If you want to have a serious discussion about self defense you may want to review the definition of the word "lynching."
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Well I resisted viewing this thread all day. No way in f_uckin hell will I ever need self-defense instructions from some dweeb in spandex shorts riding a bicycle.
Quite refreshing to see DeFlave stepped in for counsel.
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Well I resisted viewing this thread all day. No way in f_uckin hell will I ever need self-defense instructions from some dweeb in spandex shorts riding a bicycle.
Quite refreshing to see DeFlave stepped in for counsel. I love Flave.
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If you had $10K and a penis, I just might. LOL Write that down. It's a figure of speech you dolt. I'd never let you suck my dick. Kingston says you're a nibbler.
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8. Who has prosecutorial jurisdiction? (In other words, do you live in a conservative/constitutional area, or a liberal schidthole that has a Soros DA? )
9. What color are you? What color is the person/persons you had to use deadly force against? Beyond that, if you are the same color, were the ones shot or dead a card carrying member of BLM or Antifa, or otherwise liberal...?
Yep. Those have become important issues in recent times.
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