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I am building a light weight, Remington 700. I plan to shoot 75 grain Gold Dots. I am considering a Pacnor 1 in 8 twist, 22 inch lightweight barrel, which number of grooves do you guys prefer and why? 3, 4, 5?
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PM Renegade50. He shoots 75gr gold dots exclusively and has a few pac-nor barrels.
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Probably a 3 groove. Less fouling too.
I’d ask Pacnor.
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I'd do 3 groove 1:7" twist.
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I am building a light weight, Remington 700. I plan to shoot 75 grain Gold Dots. I am considering a Pacnor 1 in 8 twist, 22 inch lightweight barrel, which number of grooves do you guys prefer and why? 3, 4, 5? Didn’t Pac Nor burn down??? I thought they were folding…
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I'd do the 5 groove. Kirby Allen determined some years ago thatc3 Grove shoots out faster than more grooves
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I am building a light weight, Remington 700. I plan to shoot 75 grain Gold Dots. I am considering a Pacnor 1 in 8 twist, 22 inch lightweight barrel, which number of grooves do you guys prefer and why? 3, 4, 5? Didn’t Pac Nor burn down??? I thought they were folding… Up & running They built me two new barrels this year... 20 Vartarg 10 twist/3 groove--Savage pre fit 20 Practical 10 twist 3 groove--Savage pre fit Great products & very accurate barrels--L O N G lead time Some bullets may have thinner jackets the 3 groove may affect Remember having a 6XC---8 twist/3 groove...would spin the jackets off a 75 V max within 100 yds Switched over to the 87 V max......problem solved....helluva LR p/dog rig
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Pac Nor offers a Polygonal Never built one but always had an interest My H&K pistols have polygonal rifling They are more accurate than me https://pac-nor.com/barrels/
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I have a 3 groove 8 twist pacnor 223 ai. It shoots well but if given a choice I lean towards 5r. Some say 3 grooves hold up longer with less fire cracking etc but I've seen 3 grooves become hard on jackets pretty early. I think the wider lands get a little rough and start chewing up jackets. I've known some guys that used to run fast twist 3 groove Lilja's but found they were poofing thin skined bullets early on. I think you'd be fine either way with a 223.
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Why Pacnor? Think Krieger or Brux...
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Why Pacnor? Think Krieger or Brux... Think lightweight and that pretty well rules those two out unless you want your gunsmith to turn to your preferred contour. See above. —————— Rock Creek and Benchmark will make you a small contour stainless barrel that is cut rifled, though.
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I am building a light weight, Remington 700. I plan to shoot 75 grain Gold Dots. I am considering a Pacnor 1 in 8 twist, 22 inch lightweight barrel, which number of grooves do you guys prefer and why? 3, 4, 5? Didn’t Pac Nor burn down??? I thought they were folding… They did have a bad fire. But they are back up and running. I just got my 25/222 back from them. Been too dang cold to get to the range with it yet.
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I am building a light weight, Remington 700. I plan to shoot 75 grain Gold Dots. I am considering a Pacnor 1 in 8 twist, 22 inch lightweight barrel, which number of grooves do you guys prefer and why? 3, 4, 5? Didn’t Pac Nor burn down??? I thought they were folding… They did have a bad fire. But they are back up and running. I just got my 25/222 back from them. Been too dang cold to get to the range with it yet. What action?
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Left handed mini Mauser. I sent them two actions a couple years back. They had the 25/222 ready to ship and the 222 just a day or two from shipping. The fire happened the next day. They refunded my money plus the cost of the actions. They were super to deal with.
I sent this one to them and when I got it back it had been incorrectly chambered. The tech used a 223 head space gauge with the 25/222 reamer and ran the reamer in until it would close on the 223 go gauge. Of course my first shot the case came out not looking as it should. I sent it back. They turned it around in three weeks. Including cerakoting. Mistakes happen with any company. Their customer service is first rate. I have three of their barrels and will have more as funds permit.
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They did my .338-06 AI prefit for the Savage. I have three other barrels by them, if I do another it will be them again.
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