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I knew a PH that used a 7x57 even for backing clients on DG. Of course he could shoot the heads off of guineas at 100 yards with ease. My experience is only with the 375H&H. Last time was with 350gr Woodleighs which worked very well. If I were to go again (highly unlikely at this point) it would be with either 270 or 300 Barnes. As with everything shot placement trumps headstamp and the H&H is easy to shoot a lot, it's only an overgrown 30-06 after all.
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We all have personal preferences. Try shooting a wide variety of calibers 375 and larger and get and take that which you are most comfortable and confident in shooting. I used a 375 H&H with off the shelf Hornady 300 grain DGX ammo for my Cape Buffalo. The ammo performed perfectly.
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The PH I've hunted with the most killed around 500 with the .30-06 and the original 180-grain Nosler Partitions back in the 1970s when culling on a big ranch in what was then Rhodesia. And no, they were not taken at night with head shots. Instead, herds were driven past the him by ranch workers, and he took every reasonable shot offered, including frontal shots on big bulls.
The majority of African PHs I've known had also killed several with cartridges including the .30-06, 7mm Remington Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum with basic chest shots. Of course, they use larger cartridges when back up clients, but the above mentioned PH mentioned that he often had to follow up and finish bulls with his .375 H&H--that his clients had wounded with larger cartridges....
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.375 H&H and .416 Rigby.
Have also been standing beside hunting partners/PHs who used the .375 H&H, .416 Remington, .458 Winchester, .458 Lott and .458 Express--a wildcat between the Winchester and Lott.
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This is the one animal in Africa I have a desire to go back and get.
Probably use my .375 H&H, but what bullet??? I have a lot of 260 partitions but I have not been impressed with their penetration on wolf, whitetail deer and elk. I got full penetration on a doe antelope and that was it. None of those were bow to stern shots, nor the reverse.
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T_Inman: do the buffalo hunt! It’s a great bit of fun. Try the Barnes 270 or 300 grain they’ll definitely do the job on a buffalo
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Did mine with my Winchester 1895 .405 WCF. 300 grain Northfork Would have done it (did a water buff for me) but I handloaded 400 grain Woodleigh Weldcore an d that worked.
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There have been books written on this one question, so there is a lot of info out there if you look. I'd recommend you read Craig Boddington's book titled simply "Buffalo" where he goes into this very question. Craig is probably the most experienced Cape Buffalo sport hunter in the US and he approaches this question from that perspective.
Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with the 375 H&H or similar or any of the various 416s. Boddington will say that the 416s and 45s seem to hit harder, but he also says that the 375s have been doing buffalo work for over a century and continue to work as long as you use the right bullet and put it in the right spot. Just like with every other animal. Good luck to you!
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Never have and probably never will, but this old boy, driven out of the herd, looks like he would argue with most anything. If he can. Ngorogoro Crater a few weeks ago on my cell. Beter pics on the Canon, which I haven't messed with yet. I'll stick to pics, I think - I've largely lost my desire to kill because I can. Not applicable for meat... I heard these buffs are rather poor eating- anyone tried it?
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This is the one animal in Africa I have a desire to go back and get.
Probably use my .375 H&H, but what bullet??? I have a lot of 260 partitions but I have not been impressed with their penetration on wolf, whitetail deer and elk. I got full penetration on a doe antelope and that was it. None of those were bow to stern shots, nor the reverse. 270 TSX would be my first choice, followed by 300gr TSX, A-frame or partition. In that order. las, My buffalo tasted very good, but was a little tough. Some aging would not have hurt it at all.
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Ias: really enjoyed the ones I ate in Namibia this year. Tasty and although not yearling doe tender the meat was far from being tough.
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.416 Remington.
I've shot about 10 buffalo with it and like the tad more knockdown power than the .375 H&H.
.375 works just fine though, probably more buff shot with that caliber than any others.
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If I ever did hunt Africa, my 3 tops would be buff, leopard, and kudu. In any order. I like those zebra stripes too....
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If I ever did hunt Africa, my 3 tops would be buff, leopard, and kudu. In any order. I like those zebra stripes too.... Would love the chess game of leopard. Kudu? no big deal. One of the few animals that if I ever shoot one, it has to be magnificent. Not simply to say I shot a kudu. I have a problem with zebra... can not say no. Fabulous table fare. If I ever make it back and a zebra presents itself, it is in trouble. Have had too much fun, frustration, head scratching, and satisfaction with zebras.
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The first two times I was going to hunt buffalo I was going to take a 375RUM with 300gr fail safes or partitions. The last time I was going to go it was going to be a416rigby with 350TSX….. but I’m apparently cursed and have yet to be able to go on the hunt. I was there several years ago and we happened across a few bulls while I was carrying my 8mm Rem mag loaded with 200TSX and my PH said if there’s a good one in there…. Shoot him! But there wasn’t…. Maybe next year.
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.375 H&H and .416 Rigby.
Have also been standing beside hunting partners/PHs who used the .375 H&H, .416 Remington, .458 Winchester, .458 Lott and .458 Express--a wildcat between the Winchester and Lott. Clearly you would not recommend the rounds you mentioned above?
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The most practical? As others have said, tough to beat the 375 As for preferred, either the 416 Rigby or the 450NE 3 1/4"
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I've shot two with the 375 H&H. Needed to finish one off with a 470NE (need being subjective and truly expediting the impending death). Next one will be 458 Lott.
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I may use my 9,3X62 Husqvarna with 320 Woodleighs. It is quicker and Lighter
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