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Im looking at picking up the Toric 2-10x42 or the Zeiss 3-12x44. Anyone have experience with both?

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I'll sit back and wait for our resident Toric Schill to ring in.

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JWP just forms strong opinions and holds them tight. He isn’t a shill - I asked.
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I had a Toric 2-10x42 and really enjoyed it. I liked the elevation turret kit supplied that allowed for a capped but repeatable turret with a zero stop. I did some shuffling and ended up parting with my Toric. I will pick another up in the future at some point.

I still have a Tekoa and Turion models though and continue to enjoy them.

I haven't had a chance to pick up a Zeiss V4 but several here talk highly of them. I would like to give one a run at some point.

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Which I could find out more about the reticle subtension. If they are similar to the Conquest 20 Z plex I would order tomorrow. Have a small rifle that could use the 2-10.
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JWP is who convinced me to try a Tract. And I'm glad he did. Because I've been more than pleased with my 2-10 Toric. As has everyone that I've let use it.

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Which I could find out more about the reticle subtension.
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Have you asked Jon through their Tract website?

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Best place to purchase a tract? Doesnt look like Doug carries these

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Originally Posted by Ky221
JWP is who convinced me to try a Tract. And I'm glad he did. Because I've been more than pleased with my 2-10 Toric. As has everyone that I've let use it.



Glad you like it. When I read what John Barnsness had to say about the one he has, I thought I'd try one. I have 4 S&B PM 2s, 2 2.5X10 Summits and a 1.5X6 S&B as well as a Nightforce to compare with. I found the Tract to hold its own with those scopes.



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Since they’re sights, not binos or camera lenses, and good quality ones, image quality is almost certainly good enough for aiming. I base my scope-buying decisions on ER (at both ends of the zoom), power range, precision of the adjustments, the range of adjustment available, and to some extent weight. Durability is also a factor, but that’s mostly based on user feedback. One-inch scopes, especially higher powered ones, tend to have smaller adjustment ranges, so are less satisfactory for really long-range use, but at typical hunting ranges are fine, and usually weigh less. Above 10x, adjustable parallax is nice to have, and it’s also handy if you shoot in close, as with rimfires. Appearance can matter, and so can the size/form factor.

Compare the specs, consider how you’ll use it, and pick. Either may be fine, or one may stand out in some way for you. Someone else’s opinion may be perfectly valid, but not for you. I’ve owned two Tracts, currently a 3-15x44 Toric, and am impressed with the quality. No Zeiss so far.

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Originally Posted by Ky221
JWP is who convinced me to try a Tract. And I'm glad he did. Because I've been more than pleased with my 2-10 Toric. As has everyone that I've let use it.


Trac Toric 2x10x42 is an excellent one. I’m hopeful that Jon and Jon will come out with a 6pwr fixed x42mm soon.

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Tract sells only direct to consumers, not to dealers. They are supposed to be coming out in January (?) with two more models with illuminated plex reticles.


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They're solid scopes. I'd put the Toric right there with Nightforce as far as quality but with better glass.

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Originally Posted by devnull
They're solid scopes. I'd put the Toric right there with Nightforce as far as quality but with better glass.

Which NF model are you comparing with the Toric? Pretty tough for any scope to keep up with the NXS or ATACR when it comes to build quality, given NF priorities and QC process.

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Originally Posted by devnull
They're solid scopes. I'd put the Toric right there with Nightforce as far as quality but with better glass.


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I have the Toric and V4 Zeiss scopes. Both are excellent. V4 gets the nod if you want illuminated reticles or something a little more exotic than the BDC or T Plex reticle that Tract offers but as far as lens quality, I could use either one without issues.


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I talked to one of the owners of tract. Told him the manner in which I wanted to test the tracking. He didn’t seem very confident I would like what I would see.

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They're solid scopes. I'd put the Toric right there with Nightforce as far as quality but with better glass.

Which NF model are you comparing with the Toric? Pretty tough for any scope to keep up with the NXS or ATACR when it comes to build quality, given NF priorities and QC process.


I'd second his assessment



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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
I talked to one of the owners of tract. Told him the manner in which I wanted to test the tracking. He didn’t seem very confident I would like what I would see.

Maybe he has kids on the playground.

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