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I guess Ruger isn’t marketing to boomers. Their loss, Yeah, needs a 007 decoder ring, plastic stock, and man bun rubber band holder for the basement gamers. When will they figure out how to run a 6.5 Creed...........through it?
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So... both Ruger and Winchester took the $400.00 dept. store budget rifle, rebranded them, and tripled the price. For that price, you can buy a very high quality (and more accurate) bolt rifle with $$$ left over to put towards optics! Screw them for raking hunters across the coals.
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So... both Ruger and Winchester took the $400.00 dept. store budget rifle, rebranded them, and tripled the price. For that price, you can buy a very high quality (and more accurate) bolt rifle with $$$ left over to put towards optics! Screw them for raking hunters across the coals. Wife is quite happy with her Walmarts $199 336. I mentioned what those are fetching these days and was told to stop it right now.....NFS
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Ruger ran the MSRP on the M77 Hawkeye Predator up to nearly $1400 in recent months. Street prices are over $1100. I bought one 2-3 years ago for something in the low $800 range and thought that was pushing it.
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People want quality American made guns but they don't want to pay the price for them.
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They upped the accuracy of the Ranch Rifle but all prices these days are due to Build Back Better.
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Fluted bolts in saddle rifles now? Every bolt in every gun sculpted to look like Louis le Roi Soleil's pietzel? Why?
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Any bets on what the first recall will be on this one? After all it is a Ruger +1 more job security for the CS dept.
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Oh boy…..just what the f uck I want……a f uckin lever action! Shades of Monty Hale!!
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Eh......You don't need that much rail to mount a red dot. But I'm sure the extended part can be removed. I'd also prefer a 22" barrel. Otherwise rifle is fine. Large loops accommodate gloves and mittens better and the glowy font sight picks up light well in low light. But if ya got a red dot, who needs glowy sights? The option of screwing a muffler on it is nice too. Or I could get a .458 SOCOM upper and do the same thing.
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So... both Ruger and Winchester took the $400.00 dept. store budget rifle, rebranded them, and tripled the price. For that price, you can buy a very high quality (and more accurate) bolt rifle with $$$ left over to put towards optics! Screw them for raking hunters across the coals. An 1895 was never a $400 budget rifle. As far as a "more accurate" don't count a good lever gun out as far as groups. Dad has a 336 that will do an inch or better with 170 grain bullets.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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For you all bitsching about the price have you seen what a semi-auto shotgun runs these days?
For you all bitsching about the rail is an allen wrench or a screwdriver to complicated of a machine for you to operate?
Cut the rail off at the front of the receiver and use it as a standard scope mount.
Not a fan of the threads but those can be chopped off pretty easily.
Other than the threads these are built exactly like the hog hunters and bear hunters have been doing them for better than 15 years.
You all must wear velcro or slip on shoes.
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Looks like a very useful rifle. As noted it has all the bells and whistles wanted by many. The lever gun modification industry is quite popular nowadays and this is one that needs no further work. That said my JM Marlin guide gun in 45-70 is one of my fave. Picked it up around 15 yrs ago extremely slightly used for $400. Wears a Leupy 1X4. Has killed a fair amount of deer and pigs. I like it and it will be here when they carry me out.
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Not my preferred lever chambering but it's a start. Ready to eyeball some more!
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All These replies…..
Has anyone actually held one?
Or just bumping gums??
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So... both Ruger and Winchester took the $400.00 dept. store budget rifle, rebranded them, and tripled the price. For that price, you can buy a very high quality (and more accurate) bolt rifle with $$$ left over to put towards optics! Screw them for raking hunters across the coals. You'd have to go back 20 years or more to buy a new Marlin or Winchester levergun for $400. Inflation is real. And the covid lockdown BS has definitely caused shortages and driven up the price and availability of materials. Gone too are the days of finding a decent used $300 Marlin at your local gun store or pawn shop with the advent of online auctions. It doesn't help that idiots keep electing Democrats which spurs hoarding and shortages every time. There's also the fact that both Marlin and Winchester both went through ownership changes which means they weren't financially healthy. It probably didn't help either of them that their guns are durable products. Their new inventory had to compete with all those cheap used ones on the local racks.
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Now don't you think that was a dumb question?
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So... both Ruger and Winchester took the $400.00 dept. store budget rifle, rebranded them, and tripled the price. For that price, you can buy a very high quality (and more accurate) bolt rifle with $$$ left over to put towards optics! Screw them for raking hunters across the coals. You'd have to go back 20 years or more to buy a new Marlin or Winchester levergun for $400. Inflation is real. And the covid lockdown BS has definitely caused shortages and driven up the price and availability of materials. Gone too are the days of finding a decent used $300 Marlin at your local gun store or pawn shop with the advent of online auctions. It doesn't help that idiots keep electing Democrats which spurs hoarding and shortages every time. There's also the fact that both Marlin and Winchester both went through ownership changes which means they weren't financially healthy. It probably didn't help either of them that their guns are durable products. Their new inventory had to compete with all those cheap used ones on the local racks. Marlin wasn’t doing poorly, no one in the family wanted to run the business. I heard anecdotally that the equipment was pretty old and run down. I don’t think Remington was ever in a position to make anything productive out of the acquisition.
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