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I know from shooting coyotes there is a noticeable difference between 14 twist and 8 twist impacts from a .223.
Using factory hornady superformance 53 grain VMAX loads the bolt gun would blow through making a nasty exit. The AR15 rounds rarely exited
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Dennis,
Have seen the same thing, in a different way, with a 1-8 twist AR-15 and a 1-14 twist .220 Swift. A friend was shooting the AR and I was shooting the Swift on prairie dogs. We were using the same 55-grainplastic-tipped varmint bullet in each rifle, but in the .223 the muzzle velocity was around 3100 fps, and in the Swift at around 3750. From the .223 they expanded noticeably more violently than from the Swift, at any range out to 350 yards.
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I only see a few fast twist 22-250 being offered but I did see browning offering a left handed 22-250 with 1:9 twist. I have a fast twist 223rem. Would fast twist 22-250 bring anything more to the table in practical term? ie make a better deer round over 223rem? I asked a similar question of Mule Deer a few years back and he opined that most 22-250 shooters are happy shooting 55 grain bullets and that the faster ROT might result in some of those lightly constructed bullets coming apart while in flight to the target. He printed the question and his answer in one of the Gun Gack book.. I have 1-8", 1-9", 1-10", and 1-14" ROT 22-250s that are set up to shoot bullets in the 55 thru 70 grain range. I'm not shooting anything over a quarter mile and am quite happy with the 60 grain VMax, 60 grain Partition, and 64 grain Power Point. Yep, but I was not addressing my opinion of the twists. Instead I was explaining WHY rifles factories still use a 1-14 twist in .22-250s. The only .22-250s we own anymore are both special runs from Whittaker Guns in Kentucky, a Ruger American and a Tikka T3 with 1-8 twists. Eileen has been using the Tikka as her deer/antelope rifle, with the 70-grain Hornady TSX at around 3300 fps, due to her recoil headaches. It has killed them just as well as larger cartridges at ranges out to 275 yards--with far less recoil and meat damage.
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I tried some loads the other day in my 14 twist Tikka Varmint stainless. I shot only to 100m with a 55gn Sierra HPBT with 35gn 8208. A pretty mild load. A 3 shot group went .6 inch. I intent to try some 60gn bullets, but reckon that's pretty good.
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I only see a few fast twist 22-250 being offered but I did see browning offering a left handed 22-250 with 1:9 twist. I have a fast twist 223rem. Would fast twist 22-250 bring anything more to the table in practical term? ie make a better deer round over 223rem? I asked a similar question of Mule Deer a few years back and he opined that most 22-250 shooters are happy shooting 55 grain bullets and that the faster ROT might result in some of those lightly constructed bullets coming apart while in flight to the target. He printed the question and his answer in one of the Gun Gack book.. I have 1-8", 1-9", 1-10", and 1-14" ROT 22-250s that are set up to shoot bullets in the 55 thru 70 grain range. I'm not shooting anything over a quarter mile and am quite happy with the 60 grain VMax, 60 grain Partition, and 64 grain Power Point. Yep, but I was not addressing my opinion of the twists. Instead I was explaining WHY rifles factories still use a 1-14 twist in .22-250s. The only .22-250s we own anymore are both special runs from Whittaker Guns in Kentucky, a Ruger American and a Tikka T3 with 1-8 twists. Eileen has been using the Tikka as her deer/antelope rifle, with the 70-grain Hornady TSX at around 3300 fps, due to her recoil headaches. It has killed them just as well as larger cartridges at ranges out to 275 yards--with far less recoil and meat damage. I'm sorry if I misremebered the specifics of your reply. I'll have to find my copy of whatever edition of Gun Gack it was in and reread it. I've got several piles of books stacked up on the library floor that need to be cataloged and put on the shelves, Because of shelf height restrictions, the only Barsness books in the library are Optics For The Hunter (1999) and Confessions Of A Rifle Loony (2010), right there between Lloyd Barc's High Country Hunting (1989) and Edwin A. Bauer's Duck Hunter's Bible (1965).
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