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Yeah - it's a Remington. And your 'gunsmith' should have known better.. Probably 80% of those who've had 'em.. Well, "lean" immediately - then toss that pos Walker trigger in the round file where it belongs..



As always, JMHO..

Update:

I took the gun to a local shop during my lunch break and he agreed that we should replace trigger, but he didn't have one in stock. I'm working on ordering it now. Midway price was best, but their website seems to be having technical problems.

Any opinions on Triggertech vs Timney?

Gunsmith did say the ex trigger was dirty and that could have contributed to problem, combined with the moisture and unusual cold yesterday (cold by MS standards ). He cleaned and lubed it well and refused to charge me anything. We tried about 25 times to recreate problem after he reassembled it, but of course it wouldn't fire.

Either way I'm going to replace it, asap.

TriggerTech all the way. Timney is, IMHO, junk. Maybe safer junk than the factory, but junk none the less. I've owned 3-4 Timneys for 700s. I upgraded, got rid of all but one, a Calvin Elite, which is sitting in a box .. might get used, might get sold. Right now I have 3 or maybe 4 TriggerTech triggers. The only thing I like better is a Jewell.

I suspected it was dirty. The m700 trigger can trap dirt and grime and need to be flushed with lighter fluid. I recommend once a year after hunting season. Also be sure to clean with a bore guide. If not cleaning solvents can get into the trigger and gum things up also.

Go with the trigger tech for a replacement definitely.

Knowing what we have known about the Walker trigger for a couple decades now, I consider it an act of utter irresponsibility not to have replaced it. Sorry to be so harsh, but life is too precious to sugar coat it…

It may take a while for it to show up. I first heard of the flawed trigger design back in the 1980's and thought it was BS at the time. But at some point in the 1990's my 1974 rifle dropped the firing pin with no trigger pull. On the older guns the safety locks the bolt. I pulled the rifle out of my safe and as usual my 1st action was to open the action to verify it is unloaded. When I moved the safety the firing pin dropped. It did it about twice more then stopped.

For another 20 years it didn't do it again. But about 10 years ago the exact same thing happened with an unloaded gun. Once again it only did it twice and stopped. By that time I'd essentially retired the rifle anyway, but I know one of my grandkids will get it one day. I replaced the trigger and would urge everyone to do the same. These guns do this so rarely it is easy to fall into a false sense that it won't ever happen to me. But every single one of these rifles will do this if everything just happens to line up right. Or I guess it would be better to say lines up wrong..

An improperly modified trigger can cause this with any rifle, but these have done it when picked up right off the assembly line. The old trigger on mine had never been modified.

I have replaced all of my Remington triggers as soon as I got them. Too many horror stories.

Did the Remington Model 7 ever come with a Walker Trigger?

Interesting thread. When did the Walker era triggers end? Are new Remingtons OK or do you guys replace those triggers as well?

Thanks.

Saw it happen on a Custom Rem 40x sniper rifle while on the range upon bolt closing. We reproduced it multiple times. Entire teams rifles went to smith for Timney Triggers. Previously there had been a bolt close AD on a live operation. Many LE sniper schools would teach no safety, bolt open until ready to fire which seems like a solution that doesn’t really fix the problem.

The important thing is no one was hurt. Im glad you decided to change the trigger. You would always have that in the back of your mind had you not replaced it.

I have a Sako Finnbear that slam fires. I have had it for years. I’m gonna get it fixed soon. We had a guy at deer lease years ago that had a 700 go off when he took it off safety. We always thought it was him. Maybe it wasn’t. It cut the brake line in his truck.

1. Glad nobody was injured.

2. In response to all of the comments about purchasing a Remington rifle then immediately replacing the trigger, I would NOT purchase a new rifle that I felt had a defect from the factory.

3. With respect to Timney triggers, I have a Timney on one of my Model Seven’s and I really like it.

4. I have an older, purchased in early 90’s, Model Seven and I’ve never had a problem with it.

Have owned a bunch of Remington's. Never had it happed with any of those rifles. I do not know of anyone personally who has ever had that happen. Any mechanical item can fail, break, etc. I have found that I have never needed a trigger "lightened" for hunting situations.....It could be possible that was an issue.

^ This, no more screwing around with unsafe tools, just get the TT and move on.

I also replaced my triggers, I have both a Trigger Tec and a Timney. Both excellent triggers. You can't go wrong either way. If I had to pick one I would lean toward the Trigger Tec. jmo.

Replace the trigger. Once you start tweaking below 3lbs on those old factory triggers you are playing with fire.

Timney in my model 7, I did have to dremel the trigger guard some due to trigger touching it.

If it was for a 700 I'd say flip a coin on timney vs trigger tech. However, on a seven the trigger tech is a better drop in fit. The picture below shows a trigger tech for a 700 next to a trigger tech for a seven. You can easily see they use a different safety lever to fit the narrower seven.

I agree with this. I have a stainless Model Seven 243 that I put a Jewell trigger in as Triggertech was dragging there feet on releasing there new trigger. My 7mm-08 Model Seven got the Triggertech. While I really like the Triggertech I think that the Jewell has a better feel. Jmo

Had a very experienced Older fellow, of which I am now one, blow Frozen dirt and milo all over me when he flipped the safety off to unload his 700 after a deer hunt. His muzzle control was OK so no harm done other than he totally quit hunting.
And yes it was dirty, old and set light but that Trigger was still the weak link.