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Originally Posted by grumpy7904
People say they were not chambered in the model 70 but I have one in my safe and know of three more in the local area. Were they a special run done for a distributor?


I seem to recall that Winchester cataloged a Model 70 with a detachable magazine and a synthetic stock sometime in the 1980's or 1990's, but I've never seen one.

What vintage is your Model 70 in 284? Is it made by Winchester or USRA?

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yes winchester put it in its 70 dbm set up for one year I think....they bring big money and i heard less than 300 were made

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Seems I'm behind the curve. I have always admired the 284, but just recently getting around to filling that hole. Colt Light Rifle barreled and stocked by Melvin Forbes. Glass was a Christmas present, so shooting it should follow when the weather breaks.


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Originally Posted by Cowboybart
Seems I'm behind the curve. I have always admired the 284, but just recently getting around to filling that hole. Colt Light Rifle barreled and stocked by Melvin Forbes. Glass was a Christmas present, so shooting it should follow when the weather breaks.


What bullet do you plan to use?

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Originally Posted by gene270
yes winchester put it in its 70 dbm set up for one year I think....they bring big money and i heard less than 300 were made


300 units made years after most of the people who cared about the 284 in 1963 had moved on couldn't have helped anyone except for Winchester/Olin, since rifles need ammo and only Winchester/Olin makes 284 factory ammo.

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Originally Posted by hasbeen1945
About the time of the 284 win. folks discovered short , fat cartridges were a little more accurate. Think PPC against the old favorite triple deuce. I tried the 6mm and 25 version of the 284. Both were outstanding in the short action 700 I had.
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The PPC rounds didn't appear until the 1980s.

P.O. Ackley's book on wildcats lists a couple of short, fat beltless "magnums" virtually identical to the .300 WSM made by turning the rims off .348 Winchester brass and cutting an extractor groove. They appeared in the early 1950s, if I recall correctly, and were designed to fit in the 722 Remington action.


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Mine is a DBM as are all the ones I've seen but with wood stocks 24" tubes.It's funny so many of them ended up here in this area if they are that limited production. I bought it in the early 90's I think 93 or 94 so it would be USRA.

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I don't understand all the angst over how other people feel about things or why they feel the need to advocate so passionately, all too often in a rude and disrespectfull manner, for the things that they prefer. If you feel that you have found a good way to accomplish something and want to share it, then share it, but expect some contradictory feedback from folks who disagree, 'cause somebody is sure to disagree with you.

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I've come very close to "duping" a short action M70 SS Classic Fwt and having it chambered for .284Win but so far I've been able to resist the urge.


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Originally Posted by horse1
I've come very close to "duping" a short action M70 SS Classic Fwt and having it chambered for .284Win but so far I've been able to resist the urge.

Do it. That be a unique build!

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Originally Posted by hanco
Originally Posted by Cowboybart
Seems I'm behind the curve. I have always admired the 284, but just recently getting around to filling that hole. Colt Light Rifle barreled and stocked by Melvin Forbes. Glass was a Christmas present, so shooting it should follow when the weather breaks.


What bullet do you plan to use?


140 or 150gr. I've had good luck with Noslers and Hornady bullets. If I ever draw a moose tag I might look at heavier bullets and some Barnes bullets


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Yep. I would have used Peterson brass, except there wasn't any (or Lapua) in stock anywhere I could find on the Internet. Graf & Sons is supposedly the sole seller of Peterson, and of course some did show up on Graf's website AFTER I submitted the article. Now have a 50-round box of it too.


Creedmoor Sports now carry Peterson Brass
just in case (pun intended) the need arises, we now have an additional source to check for availability


Peterson brass @ Creedmoor Sports


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An easy way to scratch the itch for. 284. Get a 7mm08 and have it punched out. Mine has withstood the test of time. Mine is about thirty years old. Deer have not liked the deep seated Bullets.

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Back in January of 1971(50 years ago--almost to the day!!!) I came across a Ruger M77 in .284 Winchester at a small town store in Idaho. The man behind the counter said they'd had it in the store for over a year and lots of guys had looked at it but quickly lost interest when they saw it was a 284 Winchester.
He said he didn't think they could give it away. It was priced at, IIRC, $134.99. When I offered him $100.00, he said "YES!" almost before the words left my mouth.

That rifle and 150 Nosler Partitions has accounted for a great many deer, several elk, bear and antelope. As I remember it, all were one shot kills.
Best $100.00 I've ever spent.

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I have had a 284 Winchester for probably 15 years. It was always an interesting cartridge to me for some reason... I started out with a Browning BLR then added a Winchester 100 and later a Ruger Model 77 with the tang safety. The Ruger was what I wanted all along but the Browning and the Winchester showed up first and both shoot great. While I've shot them some at the range, I've never hunted with any of them. Probably going to change that this year.

Getting the ammo has always been a bit of a problem. I sent a box to someone on the Fire a few years ago that couldn't find any during one of the shortages. Shortly after that I decided that if they were going to be that hard to find, I'd add the 284Win to the cartridges that I load. I bought some of the 6.5X284 cases and I've taken to calling them my wildcats in 7X6.5X284. I've never been one to buy a standard cartridge and then try to make a magnum out of it, so they are fun to shoot.

After seeing those Savage 99's in 284 Win, I might have to see how much space I have in the gun safe and if I can squeeze in one more rifle.


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I've had at least one rifle chambered in 284 WIN for over 40 years. It seems to me that the 284 WIN's 2.17", or 55mm, is a little long for Remington short actions due to magazine COAL limits. Most people think of the 284 WIN as primarily a short action cartridge despite its case length, while few people would ever think of the 6.5x55 as being a short action cartridge because of its case length. Same case length, same COAL issues in Remington short actions, very different perspectives.

I went down the 284 based wildcat rabbit hole some years back and did them in 6-284, 25-284, 6.5-284, 30-284, 338-284, 35-284, and 44-284. Some worked better than others for me, so I've kept some of the rifles chambered in 6-284, 25-284, 6.5-284, and 338-284. I screwed the barrels off the others and used the actions for other projects.

Different folk, different strokes, but I've come to the conclusion that for the guy who wants a short action 0.284" bore rifle, the 7mm-08 fits in Remington short actions without the same COAL issues that you're likely to run into with the 284.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
I've had at least one rifle chambered in 284 WIN for over 40 years. It seems to me that the 284 WIN's 2.17", or 55mm, is a little long for Remington short actions due to magazine COAL limits. Most people think of the 284 WIN as primarily a short action cartridge despite its case length, while few people would ever think of the 6.5x55 as being a short action cartridge because of its case length. Same case length, same COAL issues in Remington short actions, very different perspectives.

I went down the 284 based wildcat rabbit hole some years back and did them in 6-284, 25-284, 6.5-284, 30-284, 338-284, 35-284, and 44-284. Some worked better than others for me, so I've kept some of the rifles chambered in 6-284, 25-284, 6.5-284, and 338-284. I screwed the barrels off the others and used the actions for other projects.

Different folk, different strokes, but I've come to the conclusion that for the guy who wants a short action 0.284" bore rifle, the 7mm-08 fits in Remington short actions without the same COAL issues that you're likely to run into with the 284.


I keep considering building one on a Tikka, with all the room for long bullets that would be needed. I keep thinking, by stop there, go for the .280 or 280 AI.

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Originally Posted by Mathsr
I have had a 284 Winchester for probably 15 years. It was always an interesting cartridge to me for some reason... I started out with a Browning BLR then added a Winchester 100 and later a Ruger Model 77 with the tang safety. The Ruger was what I wanted all along but the Browning and the Winchester showed up first and both shoot great. While I've shot them some at the range, I've never hunted with any of them. Probably going to change that this year.


I've had a 284 in a M 98 action 21" bll for a few years and I LIKE it. Here are a few deer that Hated it.

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Antlerless only season and 1st victim. 2017
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When buck season opened this is the 1st. victim.

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He was trailing 1 of 2 Doe and I said "hey", he raised his head for the last time.
His left antler was broken short and i didn't know it.

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And this guy was walking straight away from me and I shot him the back of the neck. Bulged his eyeballs.

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The rifle is accurate and 139 HBTSP s work nicely.

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