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You like to try and read too much into things....



You said it took you most of a box of ammo to sight in a Leupold scope.....I said I sighted one in yesterday in two shots.

I went on to shoot five 5 shot groups without any further scope adjustments.....sighted in in two shots like I said.


Comprehend'e...

You're amazing. Most people shoot at least a 3-shot group to confirm a scoped rifle is actually sighted-in.

I didn't say it always takes me most of a box to sight in a Leupold every time. But sometimes it does, because (1) the adjustments don't actually move the amount indicated, and (2) sometimes they don't move at all until the rifle's fired again--or even twice. Anybody that claims otherwise hasn't sighted-in many friction-adjustment Leupolds--but have also seen it a number of times with click-adjust models.
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A few weeks back I sighted in an M8 4x Leupold using my standard method with Leupolds:

1. Bore sight.
2. Shoot a 3 shot group.
3. Measure needed adjustment and adjust off of the closest 2 of the 3.
4. Shoot another 3 shot group to verify the adjustment took place on second and third shots.

Adjustments were repeatable...at taking effect on the second and third shot every time. If I had shot 1 shot and adjusted I'd have been chasing 0 all day. It takes 3 times (someone might get away with 2 times) as many rounds to sight a Leupold in as it does a repeatable scope. Below is the 3 shot group after the final adjustment....not hard to tell which was the first shot....and it did it every time.

LFC,

Well, gee, then I have sighted-in a PILE of scopes (including some Leupolds) with two shots.

Apparently you don't count a confirming group (whether 3- or 5-shot) as part of the sighting-in process.

JMCubic,

That's pretty much what I do as well with friction-adjust Leupolds--though often with some old-fashioned tapping of the turrets with an empty case, in hope of settling the adjustments without having to fire yet another round. But that doesn't always work!

As mentioned, have seen click-adjustment Leupolds that were somewhat tough to zero as well.

What part of "confirmation" are you bozOs missing...read below.

R e a d i t r e a l

S L O W if you need to.

Good lord, I'm about to throw some holy water at my screen!

You'd think he was from Louisiana the way he crawfishes....

[/quote]Don't get made at me bacause you said it took you "most of a box of ammo" to sight in a Leupold.

A Varx II 3×9 took me two shots today.
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Here's your first post on the subject.

Phil,

Apparently I'm not as anachronistic as I used to be. Now have a 6x scope on my .30-06!

Only if the user uses see through mounts.

Who’s making good 4x or 6x scopes anymore? Admittedly I have not done the research myself on a fixed power in quite a while but am curious

I have a couple 06's with 4x and 6x scopes. They are blued/walnut as well. A few years ago I had one of them and a few levers along at the rifle range, and a group of gents I was talking with, who were only a few years younger than me, but had tacticool everything, told me "they really dig my retro rigs". Hold onto anything long enough for it to drop from being commonplace and it crosses back into being stylish.

You aren't nothing but a POS troll. Go back under your rock bridge

WRT low powered scopes, I suppose one could make the argument that targeted advertising might be able to reinvigourate this market. (No pun intended).

According to friends who live in Europe, low, fixed power scopes are still popular there. Europe seemed to be less affected by the tactical craze that hit North America years ago. I don’t think they can resist advertising any better than North Americans, but there is less wide open space. Maybe they know what works in their situation.

For those of us who don’t use our rifles over 300 or 400 yards for hunting, a high powered scope isn’t practical, except at the range. That never stopped anyone from buying one however.

Companies are going to go with what makes the money.

I'd be mad too if I thought a Track scope was equal to a Schmidt and Bender....

River Ridge;
Good afternoon sir, thanks for the kind words which I do appreciate and will do my best to deserve.

My good friend, the late Willy, by his own admission was "drunk for about 15 years" and quit cold turkey when his doctor told him to stop drinking or his liver would stop for him.

Most folks who knew us thought we were an "interesting" pair to say the least because he was known as a bit of a scofflaw in his younger days, as mentioned a heavy drinker and had a colorful vocabulary. I was me, that is to say a regular church, on the board, didn't/don't cuss that much and was on the wagon along with Willy when we met.

Nonetheless he and I got along famously, did many, many firearm trades, swaps and deals and among many people who helped me a ton when I was learning reloading he stands out as my best mentor for sure.

The last thing I'll mention about Willy and my late buddy Dave who taught me stock making, checkering, rust bluing and was a handloading mentor as well was that they were both devout apostles of St. O'Connor, which meant that cartridge and rifle development had reached it's pinnacle with the .270 in a pre-64 Model 70m. There was some room for discussion on bullets however, they could be either 130gr or 150gr, but had to be Sierras and had to be propelled by H 4831.

Since I was hunting with an '06 for the most part when I first met them, they felt I was mentally deficient but must have decided to try and convert me over to the one true path as they put up with me until both passed on.

Thanks again for the kind words and for letting me share a wee bit about a couple wonderful and colorful shooting and firearm mentors from my past.

All the best to you.

Dwayne

You are a fool and have no idea about Tract scopes.

Dwane we don’t know each other at all but I sincerely enjoy reading your posts. You come across sincere & caring along with a fun story that adds color to the conversation. Glad you’re here & I hope to read more of your thoughts over time.

Stay warm & out of avoidable trouble,

Tim

I'm in a bad way. Both '06s wear 4x scopes.

Just bought another .30-06 today--which has a 2-1/2X scope! Now am wondering if I can actually hit anything with it! (Though killed quite a few big game animals with 2-1/2x and 3x scopes back in the Stone Age....)