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I don't know about where you live but in NY it seems our deer population as taken a huge hit. At least in my eyes, driving from Albany to NYC, or Buffalo and Pennsylvania it wasn't uncommon for you to see well over 50 on a trip not to mention quite a few dead ones. Lately I am lucky to see a handful and that includes dead ones. I know in counties near NYC they are blaming a virus carried by a fly. After Corona I put nothing past our government including wiping out the deer heards.
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Coyotes are taking a big toll in Ohio. I'm not seeing nearly as many deer on the property that I hunt in Southern Ohio. Seeing and hearing more coyotes than ever.
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Cars kill more deer than anything.
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I absolutely agree about lack of deer in NY. My buddy and I have been talking about this extensively. Even the town Clerk commented on it because my nephew came up to hunt and bought his license the day before firearm season opened. He got his buck tag and they gave him two doe permits as well. the day before the opener!. Seeing very few deer between Syracuse and Binghamton on 81 and the same for Binghamton to Middletown on rt 17....or 86, whatever the state calls it now.
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New York does not manage the deer herd for hunters, they manage it for insurance companies. I doubt anyone travels to New York for deer hunting. If you want to see really dismal hunting, try the Adirondacks!
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I don't know about where you live but in NY it seems our deer population as taken a huge hit. At least in my eyes, driving from Albany to NYC, or Buffalo and Pennsylvania it wasn't uncommon for you to see well over 50 on a trip not to mention quite a few dead ones. Lately I am lucky to see a handful and that includes dead ones. I know in counties near NYC they are blaming a virus carried by a fly. After Corona I put nothing past our government including wiping out the deer heards. How do you think the government is killing them and for what reason do you think the government are killing all the deer?
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I have not seen a legal buck on public land during the season, for 7 years. Phuc those antler restrictions.
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It seems like a lot of deer are dying of mysterious parasites and diseases. I probably wouldn't have thought to much about it until Coronavirus. I would not be shocked to see deer being infected with something to control the population. I know they found a couple islands in the Hudson river with a lot of dead deer including one with 60 dead deer
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New York does not manage the deer herd for hunters, they manage it for insurance companies. I doubt anyone travels to New York for deer hunting. If you want to see really dismal hunting, try the Adirondacks! I do, it used to be if I wanted to hunt I would go to the Adirondacks, if I want deer I would go down south to the Catskills
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DNR is in cahoots with the Car insurance companies, as always follow the money.
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Is Bidens cabal buds going to push a supply chain food shortage?
I dont put anything past them.
Isnt Klaus Schwab and the WEF pushing eating bugs, like they are in the socialist repuboic of Venezuela?
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NYS gives doe permits to any land owner with over 50 acres. They hand out nuisance permits to farmers to basically kill as many deer as possible to limit crop damage. That’s not the way to manage wildlife. I don’t care how many game animals there are, they should never be treated as a nuisance, they are a valuable natural resource.
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NYS gives doe permits to any land owner with over 50 acres. They hand out nuisance permits to farmers to basically kill as many deer as possible to limit crop damage. That’s not the way to manage wildlife. I don’t care how many game animals there are, they should never be treated as a nuisance, they are a valuable natural resource. I agree a hundred 💯, I guess things haven't changed much considering what was done to the Buffalo
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Here in Washington we prohibited bait and hounds for predators....then introduced wolves....then added AWFUL fish and wildlife practices related to the seasons and habitat.
That's how they're involved here.
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Ps, I live on what was once the most prolific whitetail deer area. 15 years ago we were thinning them to reduce stress on the mule deer.
I haven't seen one in two years in my entire county.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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Ps, I live on what was once the most prolific whitetail deer area. 15 years ago we were thinning them to reduce stress on the mule deer.
I haven't seen one in two years in my entire county. Whatever their reason, it ISN'T the hunter.
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I believe the people give the government a lot more credit on stuff they are just not bureaucraticly ( is that a word?) capable of.
In other word, more credit than they are due.
They basically have no issues continually phuqing up schidt sandwiches without even trying all that hard.
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Cars, yotes, and CWD all have taken a toll.
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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Great, another Kook-konspiracy for the kooks to kook over...
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