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I am on the fence.

On the other hand, there are cases where police, not EMTs, have rescued the same junkie 3 times in a day with the Narcan. Hit the junkie with the Narcan at 9am, save him, he is rushed to the ER, he is released by the hospital at noon, hospital doesn't want that junkie trash, and at 1pm he is back on the street, passed out with an OD. Police racing across town, lights and sirens, to save a junkie with a death wish. Sometimes, police running lights and sirens have wrecks, and bystanders, or cops, get killed in the wreck. I think cops should not carry Narcan.

As for school kids, well, maybe we should give a break to a 13 year old kid.

Should the government supply it for every household with children? Yes or no?

No! Emphatically no.

Doesn’t work that way

This thread shows how lost this nation is and how many liberals, masquerading as conservatives there are. Free breakfast/lunch/dinner, because kids would starve.

If eliminating the Constitution saved just one child's life, isn't it worth it?

I agree with you Dillon. I was a kid and had friends and we did stupid [bleep]. Lucky we didn’t die.

You can be the best parent but your kids will prove you wrong.

Uhhh.....yes it does.


What do you mean?

The. same folks mandating this want to deny healthcare to hard working, tax paying citizens who have natural immunity and have made the wise decision not to take the untested Mrna vax.

To supplying them at home? Why not?

How many kids were doing school online because of COVID? Shouldn't they receive the same care as if they were in classroom? After all, they are only in school 15% of the year.

It would seem that if kids are what is important, we should ensure that Narcan is in every household with a child. Regardless of cost.

Why are we only concerned with a child's well being between 8am and 2pm?

Good point Mike.

See what you're getting at, obviously not callous enough that I'd say fugg 'em they made their bed about a 13 year old.

But if we're going to rely on school teachers/staff to promptly and accurately identify an overdose then administer Narcan as the solution we better have a hell of a Plan B (not the pill).

For or against is just a matter of opinion....what the widening availability of Narcan really means is that one of the most expensive and least effective government boondoggles ever created is a total and abject failure art every level since it's inception in 1971....think about that fellas, a 50 year complete failure, and we keep funding it. If every single DEA employee went home today at 5 pm and never came back, who would know? Turn over DEA's job to Darwin. No, I'm not a Libertarian, but at some point when you are shoveling sand against the tide, you gotta think about changing your strategy, it shouldn't take a half century to figure it out.

Shouldn’t be an “all up in arms” knee jerk politicized topic


Deputy Tubby the school resource officer should know first aid, cpr and have NARCAN in his office and in his unit like almost all county agencies here in Tennesee

ALSO; the big “Duhhhh!!!!” The school nurse should have this on hand too as her due diligence as a medical professional


Now, the slumlord part: sorry if you live in Pissville USA and this is a foreign concept to any of you. EVERY school here has 1-2 SRO resource officers and an onsite nurse.

NARCAN kits are available for the asking as most places. It’s like having and AED now. Again, unless youre in Pollyanna Pissville one room schoolhouse.

I absolutely disagree.

You think that 7th grader was going to cure cancer?

Nope he was a piece of human wreckage, why do we spend all our resources on people that can't be saved?

The race to the lowest common denominator continues unabated by stupidity like this.

I also think if you're given NARCAN for drugs you voluntarily ingested, we tattoo your forehead.

One and Done!

They've had their 2nd chance.

Let them die before they can steal my belongings again.

SKane;
Good morning to you my friend, I hope the day's looking to be a fine one out your way and you're all well.

While I'm cognizant of both sides of this particular argument, I'll have to agree with you on this at this time.

One of our daughters who you all used to see in the hunting photos here is now a high school teacher down in the Lower Mainland/Greater Vancouver.

Here's the really tough thing, they're now running Narcan kits on some construction sites as it's not uncommon for young men to OD at work here.

There's a deep, deep rooted problem as you've noted and it's not only the homeless ODing, at least not in my part of the world. The "typical" OD will be male, often single but not always and usually employed.

The instances that I am personally aware of where young men ODed were blue collar working chaps who didn't drink themselves into a stupor like my generation did - well and still seems to for that matter.

I cannot begin to articulate to you how troubling this is to me personally, but I believe it's not going to be a simple fix.

All the best to you regardless.

Dwayne

I disagree about cops and Narcan.

Again, there are junkies. Do we save them? That's one topic.

Another is the people we pay, and have an obligation to, to go out and
deal with the junkies and dealers. Things have changed, this isnt a
dime bag, that you could open and juggle, even eat, and not worry about.
Cops can get exposed to lethal doses accidently, or on purpose from
a dealer. Narcan can save them.


Just as my second argument for schools.

Do we want to have something on the spot, to save innocents exposed?


The new argument is then, is it only for the cops.
Now comes the schidt storm.

One member here stated that among his fellow cops it was understood they only used it
on themselves. Personally, I agree.
A cop vs a junkie thgat caused the problem. Not a question, really.

No I don't agree.

Let them die. Let that be the lesson of the day for other kids who witness it.

.gov looks for every reason they can to require people Or companies to buy Narcan

Could it be they own stock in the manufacturer of narcan ?


Could it be true that certain .gov people allow the entrance and distribution of opioids on US soil? No they wouldn’t do that.

They said they had no idea it was an opiate OD.

OK, some good arguments here....how 'bout since there is a lot of enthusiasm in the world now for shots...we drug test everybody, those that test positive get a shot of Naltroxene, get drunk or do opioids, you get so sick you want to die. Narcan, to me is like bandaging victims in a car wreck and then claiming you have solved unsafe driving.