Tikka T3x 30-06, Burris 3-9 FF II & a few bucks leftover for tags.
Damn hard to beat that package. Op could take his pick of good cartridges to use. I have them in 6.5cm, 7mm08, 308win. All prime candidates sure to work on elk. Great choice though.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Another vote T3x. But in 270 or 06. Vx3 3.5-10 with CDs for easy dialing. Or meopta 2.5-10. Maybe 7 rem mag if you feel you need a magnum to kill an elk.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
I went from a Ruger M77 boat paddle in .338 to a Kimber Montana in 300wsm. The 338 felt like it was 10 pounds, where the kimber comes in around 6. Killed several bulls with the WSM out to 280 yds. Archery hunt now and prob never go back to a rifle.
A SS Tikka is around $750 here. Blue, closer to $600. I can see the advantages to SS, but it wasn't worth an extra $150 to me. I have other rifles that cost more, but I sometimes wonder why.
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Model 70 Classic Stainless synthetic in 308 that I bought in 93-94 with a VXII 3x7 weighs in at 7.8.....use to wear a 3x9 but like the 2x7 for what I hunt.
Really hard to beat Tikka. Super accurate as well. Add a Swarovski 3.5-18 x 44 on it with the ballistic turret and you're good to go out to 500 yards (with proper site in). The scope weighs a mere 15.9oz. with best of the best glass. You can have a rifle, scope, sling, and loaded magazine under 8lbs.
Tikka T3x 30-06, Burris 3-9 FF II & a few bucks leftover for tags.
Totally agree... I'd go 270 Win, but the concept remains the same. Whenever I meet someone new to hunting here in Montana who is asking for rifle advice, that's the setup (in 270) I tell them to get.
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My choice would be a Winchester M 70 Featherweight .30/06. A Leupold 6x or 2-7x would be good choices for scopes.
Load it with 180 grain Nosler Partitions and go hunting.
Good choice, and one I had for a long time, but the OP want's a lightweight... the M70 isn't!
I feel like one of those featherweights in a LW stock like an EDGE or Brown, is just about right. for me its like the 3 bears, Standard featherweight too heavy, 308 Montana too light for me to shoot really well in all positions, but a 22" featherweight with a 22oz stock just right.
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My choice would be a Winchester M 70 Featherweight .30/06. A Leupold 6x or 2-7x would be good choices for scopes.
Load it with 180 grain Nosler Partitions and go hunting.
Good choice, and one I had for a long time, but the OP want's a lightweight... the M70 isn't!
I feel like one of those featherweights in a LW stock like an EDGE or Brown, is just about right. for me its like the 3 bears, Standard featherweight too heavy, 308 Montana too light for me to shoot really well in all positions, but a 22" featherweight with a 22oz stock just right.
I've had something like 6 M70 Fwt's with the McMillan Hunters Edge before I quit them... man do I hate that stock! I'd go Brown or Bansner.
A LA M70 Fwt in a 24oz fiberglass stock, with all-aluminum bottom metal (or a blind magazine), X-Low Talley lightweights, a 6x36 Leupold, 5 rounds, and a Butler Creek Mountain Sling, can be brought in "all-up" right around 7lb's 8oz's. In my world that's a "midweight" but it's still a darn good place to be!
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There is a Kimber mountain accent in 280 ai with a Swaro z5 3.5-18 in DNZmounts for sale on Longrange hunting.com. Considering the price of the scope, it looks like a pretty good deal and would fit the definition of light.
My buddy has one of those Kimbers. They are very light and handy. His shots will start to widen up substantially after four founds. Like from 1.5" to 4" groups at 100. Big game hunting shouldn't be an issue, almost all shots are cold bore.
A barrett fieldcraft would be ideal, but they are north of $2000 lately. Forbes are a factory version of a Nula, but not quite as good quality and sadly they discontinued them, but they are light and balance well and could be found for around $1100 -$1500 depending on how hard you look for them. The 2 forbes I had both shot sub Moa with factory ammo. One was a fluted bolt 270 and the other a 30-06 with the jeweled bolt.
My buddy has one of those Kimbers. They are very light and handy. His shots will start to widen up substantially after four founds. Like from 1.5" to 4" groups at 100. Big game hunting shouldn't be an issue, almost all shots are cold bore.
Is that with you shooting it too? If its like that with both of you shooting, the rifle has some mechanical issues if it's not the shooter. Some guys struggle with shooting an exceptionally light rifle like the Kimber. An example of how a good lightweight rifle shoots:
Had a buddy verify, even though it was not necessary.. A good rifle will keep them clustered in tight. Regardless of how many you send downrange.
This was one of the suggestions given right from the get go in this thread. Second post of the thread was a damn good answer to the question. You want a good shooting lightweight rifle, buy a Tikka. Doesn't necessarily have to be a superlite either. It can also be a lite model. I have both and there isn't much difference in weight between the 2 models. That's also saying if I ran across a couple stainless T3 or T3X lites for $500 each, I'd jump on them and not even worry that they were not the superlite model..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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I really like the Kimber Hunters or the T3X....they check a lotta boxes and don't cost an arm and a leg. I too, would go .270. Less recoil and it's kills just as well as any of the others...
The lighter rifles allow you to put a little more scope on, if you choose to - and still have the advantages of the handier pkg. Both of my Hunter 84's wear SWFA 3x9's and the T3x will too, just as soon as the rings arrive.
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I replied earlier about a vote for a tikka. I also keep seeing kimber Hunter posts. I have both and both are in 6.5 CM. Tikka T3x SL for me and the kimber for my boy. They both shoot at or under moa. But the kimber does open up after few mags. Doesn’t matter to me, because for hunting you only 1-3 shots. The tikka I can go though a box before l need to let her cool off a bit. Plus it feeds a lot smoother. The Hunter is lighter and better balanced than the T3x SL. A true ultra light. It Might be the longer 24” barrel on the tikka. Also the fact I had to send kimber in before I ever shot it as it would not chamber reloads, and kimber only recommends factory premium rounds. (Insert jerk off motion here )
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All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
i use a weatherby mk5 ultralite 300 weatherby for elk, light enough and more than enough for elk 4x16 nikon on it using a 165 barnes TSX. Should be close to your price range
My choice would be a Winchester M 70 Featherweight .30/06. A Leupold 6x or 2-7x would be good choices for scopes.
Load it with 180 grain Nosler Partitions and go hunting.
Good choice, and one I had for a long time, but the OP want's a lightweight... the M70 isn't!
I feel like one of those featherweights in a LW stock like an EDGE or Brown, is just about right. for me its like the 3 bears, Standard featherweight too heavy, 308 Montana too light for me to shoot really well in all positions, but a 22" featherweight with a 22oz stock just right.
I've had something like 6 M70 Fwt's with the McMillan Hunters Edge before I quit them... man do I hate that stock! I'd go Brown or Bansner.
A LA M70 Fwt in a 24oz fiberglass stock, with all-aluminum bottom metal (or a blind magazine), X-Low Talley lightweights, a 6x36 Leupold, 5 rounds, and a Butler Creek Mountain Sling, can be brought in "all-up" right around 7lb's 8oz's. In my world that's a "midweight" but it's still a darn good place to be!
That’s where my go to M70 comes in. About 7 1/2.
Light? Yes. But not when compared to some others.
A little 84m with tally LW’s and L6x36 is a pretty amazing little package.
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I personally would build one. A Rem700 LA donor action, 21 or 22” #1 contour barrel in 270/280/30-06 or a SA in 260/7mm08/308. Put it in any number of lightweight stocks from McMillan or B&C. Have fun with it!
Yeah, I always forget about the Kimber Hunter. For me, I’d always rather use it than a Tikka, but either with a 3-9 Burris with dots would work great.
Can’t be that of a good rifle if you forget about it. Do you own one or the other or both?
Neither… Kimber Montana’s are my favorite lightweight.
So How can you recommend one over the other if you don’t own either of them?
The Hunter is just a Montana in a cheap stock w/ detachable magazine - I've got 18 years with various Kimber MT's. The Tikka - well, they are a known performer that a lot of my friends use. I've certainly handled them, and while I don't care for them personally, they tick a lot of boxes for a guy that's not as picky about plastic as me.
You seem uptight about this...
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Yeah, I always forget about the Kimber Hunter. For me, I’d always rather use it than a Tikka, but either with a 3-9 Burris with dots would work great.
Can’t be that of a good rifle if you forget about it. Do you own one or the other or both?
Neither… Kimber Montana’s are my favorite lightweight.
So How can you recommend one over the other if you don’t own either of them?
The Hunter is just a Montana in a cheap stock w/ detachable magazine - I've got 18 years with various Kimber MT's. The Tikka - well, they are a known performer that a lot of my friends use. I've certainly handled them, and while I don't care for them personally, they tick a lot of boxes for a guy that's not as picky about plastic as me.
You seem uptight about this...
Now that you have given a reason as to why And how you came up with your choice. I can respect it. For a second there it Sounded like you’re were an internet expert
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
I would pick the t3x in 30-06, and a trijicon 3-9 accupoint green mildot.
Friend just got that rifle, he put a FFII 3-9 ballistic plex on it, and it is very nice, but I like an illuminated reticle. The rifle shot 168 TTSX handloads very nicely.
A 168 TTSX at 2800 fps ought to put a hurt on an elk and is not too much for deer.
With the 30-06, you can always shoot even heavier if you want, up to 200 gr if you want a bigger hammer. Can't do that with a smaller cartridge.
I'm a big fan of the Savage LWH's. they were pretty cheap, shot great and very easy to tote around.
but like most here, I carry a lot of confirmation bias. my son and I hunt with a pair of Savage LWH's in .308. I think I bought them for <$600/ea.
the Tikka Superlight is a great config (only available at Sportsmans or Cabelas).
if you are left handed, consider the Browning 81 BLR. My blr wont shoot as well as the LWH's do, but looks cooler in all the pictures.
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heading out west for a hunt next year. what the best lightweight rifle for up to $1,500? will be chasing elk and mule deer.
Why not just use the ruger 308 that your already have? Your model goes 6.5 lbs when dropped into a ruger sythetic stock, getting rid of that goofy laminate stock. Thats as light as a tikka t3x lite.
The 7oz burris scout in warne mountain tech rings goes 10 oz.
All the ruger 308s are a true short action, the tikkas are not. Also, the faster 1:10 twist on the ruger 308s, they group the longer/heavier bullets with outstanding accuracy.
Anyhow, dont overlook your feisty lil 308 carbine.......
With the 30-06, you can always shoot even heavier if you want, up to 200 gr if you want a bigger hammer. Can't do that with a smaller cartridge.
I have been loading 200 grain partitions and 200 hot cors to 2550 fps for over a decade in the little 308. Many other guys have used this load as well, as its the minimum, bison legal load here in Alaska.
46-47 grains (depending on brass) of alliant mr-2000.
Are you sure that a smaller cartridge cant launch a 200 grainer?
Another vote for the Tikka T3x Lite. I own Rem 700's, Win M 70's and a couple of customs. I picked up a Tikka T3x Lite in 270. IMO, it is the best rifle out of the box in your price range. Mine shoots cheap off the shelf factory ammo as well as my custom rifles shoot match ammo.
Kimber Montana 7mm-08 or 308 if you can find one...My 7mm-08 weighs 5lbs 2.1 ounces Tikka T3x lite 30-06 or 270. My 30-06 6lbs 2ounces Browning Xbolt hells canyon 30-06 or270 under 7 Remington mountain rifle (old model) 270 or 06.
If you’ve never owned/used a lightweight rifle I suggest you at least handle if not shoot one before buying. Shooting them accurately takes a little getting used to. Factor in the fact that altitude can cause heavy breathing and the ever present wind and it can make holding even a heavy rifle on target difficult. You may be better off toting old reliable if you have one in a suitable package. I’m all for new guns for any reason so just pointing out the fact that lightweights are different.
lots of good advice already mentioned. i've never owned a true lightweight rifle until a month ago when i bought a savage lightweight hunter (308 win) off a member here. i have only shot it 6 times so far but once it warms up i'll get her ready for the upcoming season. Lord willing, i'll kill a few whitetails here on the farm, and will also kill a new mexico elk in december. i'm looking forward to carrying this lightweight rig after elk. it fits me just right and i'm sure it will get the job done. i hope you find the right rifle for you. good luck on your upcoming hunts with you new lightweight rifle.
Winchester Fwts, Remington 700 Mnt rifles, Kimber 84L, for the 300wm, I'm back tot he CA Mesa, its still lighter than Mod 700 Classic in 300WM I used for years, at least to me.
@Brad - I love my Kimber Montanas, but if you feel like spending a little more money on a lightweight rifle, i think the Havak Element is quite an upgrade to that style of rifle.
@Brad - I love my Kimber Montanas, but if you feel like spending a little more money on a lightweight rifle, i think the Havak Element is quite an upgrade to that style of rifle.
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I’ll add my nod towards Tikkas as well. I bought a T3 superlite in 7 Rem Mag in 2016 and have loved hunting elk, mulies and whitetails with it since then. So much nicer to carry than the railroad ties(heavy rifles !) I used to carry in the woods. They are a bit pricey, but in my meager, humble opinion…they are worth it. Just bought another one in 6.5 PRC a few days ago.
I am stuck between the TIKKa T3 lite 3006 , Kimber Hunter 3006 and the Holy Grail that I really like but it's too much $$$$.The Weatherby V Hunter. The weatherby is nice but to much $. They do not make a Vanguard under 7lbs that does not cost 2k. So, Game over right there. That leaves the kimber which has 24 inch barrel that I would like to have (Balance and so more speed). The Tikka has a 22 inch tube with no 24 inch option?? Unless i go to a magnum chambering.Which i will not do. As a fact Tikka's flat out shoot well ,95% of the time. Kimbers have some known accuracy issues with some rifle and open the door for a return to factory because of that if they will not shoot. So, Tikka needs to offer a 24 inch tube or a custom shop option. Or i buy a T3lite and move on to hunting. I have to make move soon due to a upcomming cash flow issue. What to do.?
Just remember lightweight rifles are not the best option to make long range shots and out west 500+yrds isa possibility heavier guns Are a better long range option if your going to be shooting past 400 yrds
I don’t know what the current prices of kimbers are but I’ve got a 84m 308 that is a breeze to carry. A synthetic stocked stainless would be tough to beat in my opinion. It shoots about anything I’ve tried in it under an inch.
heading out west for a hunt next year. what the best lightweight rifle for up to $1,500? will be chasing elk and mule deer.
Why not just use the ruger 308 that your already have? Your model goes 6.5 lbs when dropped into a ruger sythetic stock, getting rid of that goofy laminate stock. Thats as light as a tikka t3x lite.
The 7oz burris scout in warne mountain tech rings goes 10 oz.
All the ruger 308s are a true short action, the tikkas are not. Also, the faster 1:10 twist on the ruger 308s, they group the longer/heavier bullets with outstanding accuracy.
Anyhow, dont overlook your feisty lil 308 carbine.......
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However if you must have a new light weight try the new Howa Super Lite in 308 WCF at 4.7lbs. Howa accuracy, especially in 308 WCF, will rival rifles costing thousands of dollars more.
I am a little late to this party, but for the lightweight part... a Kimber Montana is my choice, Tikka's are good, owned a couple, but the Montana's fit me better.
I am a big Model 70 fan, and have a Classic FWT in a McMillan Edge FWT stock. I also have a Kimber Montana in 338Federal.
Both with Talley lwt rings and Leupy 2.5-8's. Model 70 is 7# 2oz Kimber 5# 13oz
I plan on doing some backpack deer hunting this fall. I will be carrying the Kimber in 338 Federal loaded with 180gr bullets.
Find a Kimber Montana in the cartridge of your choice and have at it.
My choice would be a Winchester M 70 Featherweight .30/06. A Leupold 6x or 2-7x would be good choices for scopes.
Load it with 180 grain Nosler Partitions and go hunting.
Good choice, and one I had for a long time, but the OP want's a lightweight... the M70 isn't!
Depends on what the OP considers lightweight. My SS classic FWT .30-06 is 7lbs 2oz scoped with VXIII 2.5-8X36, just a touch over 7.5 with mountain sling and 5 rounds. I did drop the barreled action in a used McMillan Edge with a blind mag.
Doubt he could do that in his budget these days, but I was well under that when I did it. Honestly, I solo hunted with a 10lb suppressed .308 this last elk season and coverd a lot of terrain with it. It wasnt as nice to carry, but I managed and was still successful.
Cost is the main issue. Otherwise, I would buy the weatherby hunter in 3006. Under 7lbs in unscoped and 24 inch tube. But $1500 bucks. I just want a sub 7lb rifle in 3006 with a 24 inch tube. Not an easy thing to find. Weatherby discontinued the Vanguard backcountry that would have fit the bill but they are no longer made.
Cost is the main issue. Otherwise, I would buy the weatherby hunter in 3006. Under 7lbs in unscoped and 24 inch tube. But $1500 bucks. I just want a sub 7lb rifle in 3006 with a 24 inch tube. Not an easy thing to find. Weatherby discontinued the Vanguard backcountry that would have fit the bill but they are no longer made.
And that’s a shame. I have an initial iteration Vanguard Back Country in .30-06, the all-stainless version. Wonderful rifle, the only one I have that rivals my Tikkas.
So, in the interest of availability, buy a Tikka. I have several, they all shoot amazingly well.
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I am leaning toward the tikka. It has 90% of what I want except the 24 inch tube. I even thought of a 300 win mag version, which gets me the 24 inch tube then loading the 300 down to top end 3006 speeds.Which would be a little above 300 win starting loads Which could work. But it would take handloading for all of my ammo for that rifle. A 3006 would allow factory and handloads as an option. Of course Tikka does not have a custon shop or any 3006 rifle with a 24 inch tube.
@Brad - I love my Kimber Montanas, but if you feel like spending a little more money on a lightweight rifle, i think the Havak Element is quite an upgrade to that style of rifle.
The Element is a very different route towards lightweight. I hunted one a lot this past season and was impressed with it.
Curiosity has me shipping it off today to lose about 6-10 oz's off the stock....we'll see how it turns out in 3-4 months.
Shooting them accurately takes a little getting used to. Factor in the fact that altitude can cause heavy breathing and the ever present wind and it can make holding even a heavy rifle on target difficult.
My first "guided hunt"('93) was a Combination Mule Deer/Antelope hunt out near Laramie, WY. We hunted the MD up in the hills early/late, and the pronghorn during the day. I had a Mod 700 Mountain Rifle in .280 (reamed to the A.I.) shooting the Nosler 150 BT at 2950fps. The wind down on those "short grass" prairies blew me/rifle and all making hitting extremely difficult. I finally shot my Pronghorn by wrapping myself up in a snow drift fence to get steady! Up in the mountains, (like I hunt over here) I was just fine.
I have also tried one of the first Ruger 77 Ultralites (.308) in the 80s. shooting deer in the woods (under 60yds) was fine. At 200yds, even leaning against the side of my jeep, I could not hit a 2 liter pop bottle, not even close!
A Custom MGA in a braked 340wby (6.5 pounds give or take) kicked the guts out of two Premium scopes, at the worst possible times. Upon return to America, I had it rebarreled to 338WM a bit heavier and Mag Na Ported., using only Barnes 185 XLC. It was manageable then, but only in the mountains, the prairie wind thingy.
So yeah...decide what/where you want to hunt and figure in as many variables as you can. I find the Sporter Weight better as an "all around" myself. i.e C.A. Mesa in 300WM/2.5x8 scope= perfection "for me". (although I love the Bergara B14 Hunter in 300WM also) Mod 70 FWTs/Mod 700 Mountain rifles about as light as I want anymore, especially for the occasional antelope. A "Sendero" style rifle is very good for, well, "Sendero's and Prairies" Have a ball though!
The Kimber hunter looks to be the ideal rifle, in price and weight and features. Under 1K and hopefully attainable in the market. I did notice they claim to have a match chamber in the rifle. Is that a real thing in a hunting. I have read in this thread that some Kimbers are accurate. Do they come from the factory with a test SUB MOA target included?
My buddy has one of those Kimbers. They are very light and handy. His shots will start to widen up substantially after four founds. Like from 1.5" to 4" groups at 100. Big game hunting shouldn't be an issue, almost all shots are cold bore.
Is that with you shooting it too? If its like that with both of you shooting, the rifle has some mechanical issues if it's not the shooter. Some guys struggle with shooting an exceptionally light rifle like the Kimber. An example of how a good lightweight rifle shoots:
Had a buddy verify, even though it was not necessary.. A good rifle will keep them clustered in tight. Regardless of how many you send downrange.
This was one of the suggestions given right from the get go in this thread. Second post of the thread was a damn good answer to the question. You want a good shooting lightweight rifle, buy a Tikka. Doesn't necessarily have to be a superlite either. It can also be a lite model. I have both and there isn't much difference in weight between the 2 models. That's also saying if I ran across a couple stainless T3 or T3X lites for $500 each, I'd jump on them and not even worry that they were not the superlite model..
the kimbers are known for the barrels heating upbetween 3 shot groups quickly because they are so thin they normally have to be cooled for quite a while or the groups will open up
Has anyone had any issues with the kimber Hunter rifles. Other then the barrel heating up and not grouping more then 3 shots in a group. I did notice that the Factory stock trigger guard is molded plastic. Not metal. Talley makes rings for that rifle so That is a go for me. Any accuracy issues?
Weatherby Ultralight in 30-06, 5 3/4 lbs plus a scope.
Yep, if you can find one of these on the used market they make a fine elk rifle. Mine is a 338-06 that I have killed one elk with and my son has a 30-06 he plans to take on his next elk hunt and leave the heavy 300wm home.
Like all lightweight rifles they can be hard to shoot without proper form, and both that we have needed some action bedding and both group best with a pressure point on the barrel. In both cases we replaced the factory pressure point which put uneven pressure on the barrel with a new one.
With a price range of up to 1k$, I am limited at that price point, but there a few options for in sub 7lbs range and under 1K$ In 3006. Mainly Kimber Hunter and Tikka Xlite