|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,135 Likes: 1
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,135 Likes: 1 |
JB pretty well nailed this topic back in '08. Other than some new powders that may be interesting to check out, not much else to add. Get a copy of this issue. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,232
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,232 |
Add the 300 grain A-Frame to the updated tests. Just sayin ...
It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 17,901 Likes: 7
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 17,901 Likes: 7 |
Add the 300 grain A-Frame to the updated tests. Just sayin ... Cutting edge and hammer both make a 9.3 as well. I’d be interested.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,579 Likes: 1
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,579 Likes: 1 |
I have hundreds of the 285 PPU. Pretty decent bullet though it seems a little hard for deer. An article on hand loading would be short. It could go something like this for me: 58.5 great RL 15 under 286 NP 3.290 COAL. The end. Thats pretty much my load with 280 Swift A Frames in my 35 Gibbs.
I tend to use more than enough gun
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10 |
I'm going to point out that in THE BIG BOOK OF GUN GACK I list about twice as many loads for the 9.3x62 as were listed in the magazine article, including one for the 210 Cutting Edge Raptor, and at the other end of the weight-scale, one for the 320-grain Woodleigh.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 586
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 586 |
Hi John:
I have a 9.3x62 handloading question. I have Hornady dies, and have handloaded the Speer 270-grain without issue. However, the bullet seating stem is such a precise fit on the nose of the Hornady 286-grain bullet, that after it is fully seated, when I lower the ram the seating stem pulls the bullet back out of the case. I then have to pry the bullet loose from the seating stem. Any suggestions for an easy fix?
Thanks,
Greg Perry
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,589
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,589 |
Color me interested also.
Never take life to seriously, after all ,no one gets out of it alive.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10 |
Hi John:
I have a 9.3x62 handloading question. I have Hornady dies, and have handloaded the Speer 270-grain without issue. However, the bullet seating stem is such a precise fit on the nose of the Hornady 286-grain bullet, that after it is fully seated, when I lower the ram the seating stem pulls the bullet back out of the case. I then have to pry the bullet loose from the seating stem. Any suggestions for an easy fix?
Thanks,
Greg Perry Hmm. Haven't seen that problem before, that I can recall. Can you see any marks on the bullets indicating which part is sticking? It might be due to a slight ring left during machining, which you might be able to remove. Or you might contact Hornady.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,135 Likes: 1
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,135 Likes: 1 |
If that was my die, I’d chuck the seating stem in a drill and polish the inside until a bullet won’t stick.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 298
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 298 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10 |
I'm going to point out that in THE BIG BOOK OF GUN GACK I list about twice as many loads for the 9.3x62 as were listed in the magazine article, including one for the 210 Cutting Edge Raptor, and at the other end of the weight-scale, one for the 320-grain Woodleigh. Will keep reposting this until more people notice.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,488
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,488 |
I'm going to point out that in THE BIG BOOK OF GUN GACK I list about twice as many loads for the 9.3x62 as were listed in the magazine article, including one for the 210 Cutting Edge Raptor, and at the other end of the weight-scale, one for the 320-grain Woodleigh. Will keep reposting this until more people notice. I noticed, I noticed! And I don't even have a 9.3 rifle! But keep posting. Some folks don't get it. Regards, Guy
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10 |
There's even a 200-grain cast-bullet reduced load....
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10 |
Might also do an article in RLN on how somebody could do their own research on appropriate 9.3x62 powders by looking at the present published data--and then using that lower-pressure data to extrapolate what might work well in modern rifles.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,330 Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,330 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 8,906 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 8,906 Likes: 2 |
I have hundreds of the 285 PPU. Pretty decent bullet though it seems a little hard for deer. An article on hand loading would be short. It could go something like this for me: 58.5 great RL 15 under 286 NP 3.290 COAL. The end. I don't know how well they work on game first hand but the sure don't feed worth a crap off the left side of my mag box in my sporterized ce43 mauser. The dummy rds I made up with 250 accubonds work fine. Mb
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,135 Likes: 1
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,135 Likes: 1 |
There's actually quite a bit of proven data out there.
No need to be beating up on JB to produce a sequel to his great '08 article and the info he's already published in GG I....
The link I posted also has a bunch of good stuff, including heavy bullet loads.
It's a great round with lots of options.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,138 Likes: 10 |
There's more published loading data for the 9.3x62 than there was in 2008--and far more on the Internet, where most bullet and powder companies also publish data, instead of only paper manuals.
The method I generally use for picking new loads to try, in any rifle cartridge, is look at all the available data and see which powders result in the high publish velocities. Then I try the top 2-3 powders--and with a "modern" 9.3x62 would probably begin with "starting" loads, because industry pressure standards are low, due to the age of the round. The SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) for the 9.3x62 is only 57,500 PSI, 2500 PSI less than the MAP for the .30-06, which itself is far lower than for newer rounds, such as the 65,000 PSI of the .270 Winchester, which is now approaching it's 100th birthday.
It would also be more practical for today's 9.3x62 users to find their own data, due to the present component- buying panic, which makes it likely they couldn't even find many of the powders I'd try. Instead they could search for data for powders they actually have on hand.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 740
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 740 |
|
|
|
|
574 members (1936M71, 160user, 1minute, 222Sako, 1Longbow, 1beaver_shooter, 64 invisible),
2,434
guests, and
1,458
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,169
Posts18,484,568
Members73,966
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|