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Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16923657 02/04/22
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,859 C chesterwy Campfire Regular
chesterwy Campfire Regular C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,859	Better have a transfer case on standby. Just a matter of time before “pump rub” puts a hole in the factory case.

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16923670 02/04/22
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Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,915 Likes: 1 Deer Park, Tx	Aint no shame in preventative maintenance. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16923696 02/04/22
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,734 Minnesota, Florida chris_c Campfire Tracker
chris_c Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,734 Minnesota, Florida	[/quote] holy scchiddt man U still got the OEM wheels ! [/quote] That was in 2013, 116,000 traded for a 2013 4 runner. Ran that to 98,000 and just traded last year for a 2018 lexus gx460

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? SamOlson #16923702 02/04/22
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,861 Likes: 10 Anywhere people are Less Stupi... C CashisKing Campfire Ranger
CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,861 Likes: 10 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	Originally Posted by tikkanut Do you name your trucks ? Yes... "Rare" 1993 Cummins "Hare" Because she is CRAZY FAST and strong. 1998.5 24 valve "Bear" Because she is rubberized black and STRONG 1997 "Square" 1989 12 valve "Spare" Not shown is the 1996 2500 Cummins know as "Mare"... because she is the Old Grey Mare with a stupid number of miles on her. And "Izzy" (1998 Isuzu Trooper) that is about to experience pure pain come Spring. Nothing is purdy... but all are damn strong for my needs. If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16923709 02/04/22
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Nestucca Campfire Regular N Joined: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,395 Likes: 3 Beaver Oregon	I give you White Lightning... (glamor shot) That’s funny Sam as that’s what they call my Drift Boat in these parts

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Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? chris_c #16923725 02/04/22
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OP tikkanut Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 30,877 Likes: 20 Rural Utah USA	Originally Posted by chris_c [/quote] holy scchiddt man U still got the OEM wheels ! That was in 2013, 116,000 traded for a 2013 4 runner. Ran that to 98,000 and just traded last year for a 2018 lexus gx460[/quote] you da man....... bought the wife an '11 GX 460 in '20 Before the schidt hit the fan her favorite.....now with 116K miles T R U M P W O N ! U L T R A M A G A !

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? chesterwy #16923730 02/04/22
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OP tikkanut Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 30,877 Likes: 20 Rural Utah USA	Originally Posted by chesterwy Better have a transfer case on standby. Just a matter of time before “pump rub” puts a hole in the factory case. yea.........I've heard that T R U M P W O N ! U L T R A M A G A !

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16923885 02/04/22
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huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,942 Likes: 16 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado	Originally Posted by tikkanut Do you name your trucks ? of course..... might not be very original, but they get named '75 jimmy, 'Ol' Blue'... '77 chev, 'Whitey" '80 chev, 'Whitey II'... '90 chev, 'Whitey Ninety'... 2000 dakota, 'Whitey Junior'. '99 dually, 'Big Whitey' Last edited by huntsman22; 02/04/22.

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16924105 02/04/22
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CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,861 Likes: 10 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	Hell yeah Huntsman22... nice stuff. My nice stuff will come after I tame this damn WV mountain If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16924179 02/04/22
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,734 Minnesota, Florida chris_c Campfire Tracker
chris_c Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,734 Minnesota, Florida	Originally Posted by tikkanut Originally Posted by chesterwy Better have a transfer case on standby. Just a matter of time before “pump rub” puts a hole in the factory case. yea.........I've heard that You can fix it before it happens. In mine I had to get a new rear halve, already rubbed through

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Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16924205 02/04/22
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,734 Minnesota, Florida chris_c Campfire Tracker
chris_c Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,734 Minnesota, Florida	https://www.merchant-automotive.com/Transfer-Case-Upgrade-Kit-w-Magnetic-Drain-Plugs-and-Fluid Parts I used years ago

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? CashisKing #16924475 02/04/22
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High_Noon Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 8,793 TX	Originally Posted by CashisKing she is rubberized black and STRONG I hear tell that's how you like yer wimmins - true? l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? chesterwy #16924485 02/04/22
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High_Noon Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 8,793 TX	Originally Posted by chesterwy “pump rub” Not sure I like the sound of that. l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? huntsman22 #16924569 02/04/22
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ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,285 Likes: 27 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...	Originally Posted by huntsman22 Originally Posted by tikkanut Do you name your trucks ? of course..... might not be very original, but they get named '75 jimmy, 'Ol' Blue'... '77 chev, 'Whitey" '80 chev, 'Whitey II'... '90 chev, 'Whitey Ninety'... 2000 dakota, 'Whitey Junior'. '99 dually, 'Big Whitey' Gee whiz, Don. Buncha racist trucks right there! If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16924659 02/04/22
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reivertom Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 10,153 Likes: 4 Kentucky Hills	I'm driving a 22 year old Toyota Tundra with low miles. It will be in my estate sale, and as long as I can fix it, I will. I saw what they want for a new one, and just laughed

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16924694 02/04/22
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,285 Likes: 27 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle
ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,285 Likes: 27 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...	Originally Posted by tikkanut Originally Posted by ironbender Looks pretty good bob. Any rust? LOL N O rust...... any time it went out over the mountain in shidtty weather I power washed the under carriage Plus you’re in Utah! Your rain is only wet on one side. If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? rockinbbar #16924800 02/05/22
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KevinLA Campfire Member K Joined: Apr 2019 Posts: 229	Originally Posted by rockinbbar Maintenance is always money well spent. Well said NRA lifetime member

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16924815 02/05/22
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JeffA Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 9,743 Likes: 15	Originally Posted by tikkanut Originally Posted by chesterwy Better have a transfer case on standby. Just a matter of time before “pump rub” puts a hole in the factory case. yea.........I've heard that It's so common a preventative aftermarket upgrade kit is sold to keep it from happening. The GM transfer cases use a gear pump inside the case that is driven off the mainshaft. The pump forces oil to the planetary as well as the drive sprocket sleeve. Because the pump is driven by the shaft, the housing of the pump must 'float' in the rear housing. There are 5 tabs around the housing that fit into spots in the rear housing to position the pump. Over time, the pump can start to wear on the rear housing. GM installed a spring steel clip in the housing intended to prevent wear but the clip can break and be rendered useless. Being that the pump housing is aluminum and is a harder material than the magnesium rear housing, it can wear a hole in the rear housing and cause a very small leak. This leak is high enough in the case that it typically will not leak when vehicle is not moving and therefor not leaving any drops on the ground. Typically the condition is not found until there is transfer case damage from running the case out of fluid. If you repair this as a preventative measure, all you'll need is a upgrade kit. If you wait until it happens, you are sure to damage the clutch disc's in your transfer case due to low lube level. Most don't know it's occurring and run their transfer case completely dry and blow it. Then you're buying a complete new transfer case. If you are dealing with a high milage rig and chose to fix it before it happens, put new clutch disc in anyway when you're installing the upgrade kit. Your going to have the case out and torn down on the bench anyways. A new set of clutches ring in well under a 100 bucks, actually closer to $50. I learned this the hard way, had my transfer case in and out three times before I was done. See, Fixing the dreaded GM pump rub

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? tikkanut #16924842 02/05/22
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chesterwy Campfire Regular C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,859	I ended up having to put a new transfer case in mine, $1700. But I’m in the same boat as most everyone else. With the cost of a new one, I’ll run my 99’ until it simply won’t go anymore.

Re: If it ain't broke....don't fix it ? chesterwy #16924885 02/05/22
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chris_c Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,734 Minnesota, Florida	If you get your oil changed or you do it yourself, take a look at the tranfser case. You will see evidence of oil staining/running down on the rear of it. If it has started to rub through

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