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Thought I show off a few of my cigarette rifles . They’re all 98’s and chambered 8x57 JS.
Like to see others posted here.

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Nice. rifles

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Never heard the term cigarette rifle. Care to educate the learning disabled?

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Originally Posted by stuvwxyz
Never heard the term cigarette rifle. Care to educate the learning disabled?


Ditto...


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My understanding is that post War cigarettes were the legal tender in a war destroyed Germany. So many gunmakers allegedly built rifles for smokes. GI’s had the smokes to trade. Smokes went straight to the black market.

My last one. 30/06, clawmounts and Nikel 4x

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PS. They tried to scrub the receiver but left a little of a waffenamt on it.

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
My understanding is that post War cigarettes were the legal tender in a war destroyed Germany. So many gunmakers allegedly built rifles for smokes. GI’s had the smokes to trade. Smokes went straight to the black market.

My last one. 30/06, clawmounts and Nikel 4x

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

PS. They tried to scrub the receiver but left a little of a waffenamt on it.



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Hanco, shot that one off front porch of the old house about 12 years ago! 🤣


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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
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Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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What's a cigarette rifle?


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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Yar! Meant to say, nice rifles!!!!!


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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Never heard the term cigarette rifle. Care to educate the learning disabled?


Ditto...

Isn't the story after the war, Germans were trading rifles to GIs for a pack of cigarettes?

Hence, '98 Mausers became known, for a while anyways, as "cigarette rifles"?

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My grandfather helped remove the body and bury his dead boss for some cigarettes from the US soldiers that shot his boss around that time.


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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Some of you folks exhibiting here, had a "Lucky Strike", no butts about it! Sorry, I couldn't resist, though admittedly some of the less than "senior citizen crowd" probably wouldn't get the inference.

I don't have any such specimens that I could necessarily conclude were in the "cigarette rifle" category. I do believe that a more typical characteristic was in "omission". That no maker ID was usually evident. They were typically so-characterized by inference of bare bones minimalist conversions. Many even retaining military cut down & recontoured stocks. Moreover, such products predominantly reflecting European characteristics in iron sights and stock refurbs or sporter substitutions. I do also believe that most of these have subsequently 'morphed' in such as Americanization "Bubba" as well as pro custom gunmaker 'stuff of some nice sporters'. Just how many true to be characterized "cigarette rifles" ever existed and the fact that many worthy ones were further modified; these rifles as something of era 'art forms', are largely disappeared.

I'm including one rifle, which I do believe reflected such typical rifle though "making do, more with less" as the interwar "cottage industry" milsurps were perhaps a bit more attention to detail. Indeed, this specimen I present has been quite professionally scrubbed. The military stock is yet evident though even it is certainly a reflection of superior 'make do' skills. A Mauser small ring Model AZ specimen yet in 8x57S chambering. Factually a wonderfully light, natural pointing utility rifle! I picked it up decades ago, then 'for a song'! Now one of my more cherished rifles... Just for what it is!

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Never heard the term cigarette rifle. Care to educate the learning disabled?


Ditto...

Isn't the story after the war, Germans were trading rifles to GIs for a pack of cigarettes?

Hence, '98 Mausers became known, for a while anyways, as "cigarette rifles"?


Thank you.


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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Originally Posted by skeen
Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by stuvwxyz
Never heard the term cigarette rifle. Care to educate the learning disabled?


Ditto...

Isn't the story after the war, Germans were trading rifles to GIs for a pack of cigarettes?

Hence, '98 Mausers became known, for a while anyways, as "cigarette rifles"?


Thank you.



Kingston? You have me on ignore? Did you see my first post in this thread? Fifth post from top

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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
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Have their round haunches gored."

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I found one at a gun gun show a while back. No idea what the original chambering was as someone had sent it to P.O. Ackley for a rebarrel. It's a .270 now. I sure would like to find the proper scope mounts for that rifle. Closing up all the holes, one quite large will cost more that I paid for that rifle. Might be cheaper to put a receiver sight on it. No markings on the action except for the word Danzig in very tiny print. Barrel has Ackley's name on it and seems authentic.
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My bad Kaywoodie. I some how read right over it.


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I suppose this means the honeymoon is over! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

No prob dude! Take care! 😁


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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Mr. P, if I were you... and several other "ifs". "If" you really like the rifle. "If", the components beyond the action are yet particularly valuable and/or desirable. You might well find a substantially complete donor M98 decent action available for transplant! That as cheaper/more practical than many hours of welding expertise and finishing work; The reblue would be a similar cost in any respect. The extra benefit also not such heavily restored specimen with inferences of heat treatment and residual strength concerns.

The main qualifier to be sure you have a standard length replacement. Such as any modified magazine adding length as now existing might need to be retained if practicable or the replacement with any mods yet required.

Someone out there has a nice "shooter" with costs nowadays not worthy of total sporter conversion. Find one and do a "transplant"! You might even seek one with some bonuses such as receiver sight, tapped for scope, etc. All the things which nowadays precluding the trend of reverse conversions of 'qualifying' sporters returned to their military model origins.

The happy hazard of finding an entire package - complete rifle - as substitute within reasonable cost range as its cost, less the sale value of yours now!

With skilled labor costs, time/materials to net value, nowadays even with gun prices up, the sheer volume of milsurp sporter conversions 'out there' with diligence, you can find either my category C - acquire as transplant action or D - replace & sell off your existing gun of reference.

The generalization if subject to notable exceptions, "The availability of 'Options' is always good!"

Photos always makes for better suggetions! HINT!
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I use the term cigarette rifle loosely. I’ve seen them as crude to elaborate but most of them if not all will have no makers name. They’re almost always done by skilled craftsmen. I have generally made it a point and only collecting the nicer ones over the years. They are easily recognizable to me when I see them. Most we’re done in the Post World War I and through the Second World War. If set up for optics they will almost always have claw mounts. The stocks are built for use with iron sights and have too much drop for optics. This can be corrected however with a laced on cheek pad. Most I encounter are chambered in 8x57 j or 8x57 JS. I find it to be a neat little nitch in collecting . The 3 I have pictured are just an example of many I have . ( sorry for the bad pictures)

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the one i have someone put used barrel on it in 257 Roberts ,but some day i wanna get a 8x57 nice cigarette rifle too !


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