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I like to think we do things a bit differently here. The protestors are well behaved for the most part, and their message seems to have been delivered.

We might do things differently but I think we need to take some lessons.

Despite the requests from Candice Bergen and the Conservatives, they must hold the line. DO NOT LEAVE.

You have the gov’t and the police flummoxed, because you’ve got control of the objective. If you leave, they will ensure that you can never come back.

So...you assume that others, your peers and counterparts across the continent and world, would do things differently. Violently. Are you familiar with the term "projection"?

I don't think it's quite over yet. If the protesters stay the course, everything will work out. I don't know how long that will be, but I hope that things will get back to normal soon. IMO, the big thing is not to give the police a reason to react violently.

It will be interesting to read the after action report on this. One thing's for sure, Trudeau has been a big help to the protesters.

Wannabebwana;
Good evening to you sir, I hope the day was decent to you and you're all well.

With the understanding that at this juncture I'm not in a hurry to defend any politician anywhere in Canada...

The clip where I found that she asked the truckers to take the blockade down was on CTV and it sounded like they started it mid sentence, no?

Try as I might I was unable to find any preamble or conditions to her request which might be good for context.

If there's anyone or any group I trust as little as the politicians here at present, it's the legacy media.

They went from saying it didn't exist to now it's a problem overnight?

Anyways I'll cautiously reserve judgement at present until I can get some context for that statement as I don't trust CTV any further than I could throw them in a 65" flat screen.

We'll keep an eye on it for sure though.

All the best and have a good evening.

Dwayne

100% correct. Redgwell has been supportive of everything the Canadian government has done up to now. He trusted their "experts".

Commie to the bone

Dwayne, all the best of the morning to you. Below is the statement from Candice Bergen --- pulled from Post Millennial.

I would note that the context of the full quote was missing from CTV and I could not find it on Global news --- I have my own conclusions on their coverage.

Whether a person agrees with her or not to me it is important to have the full context of her presentation.

Especially after yesterday's rant by Trudeau blaming inflation (food, fuel, utilities, car parts) on the protest and the conservatives for backing the protest.

https://thepostmillennial.com/


"She then addressed the protest directly, where she applauded their spirit, but called for an end to protests."I want to speak directly to Canadians who are demonstrating here in Ottawa and across the country. Your protest began with truckers, and you've grown into an international phenomenon," she said, referring to protests that have spawned in Europe and elsewhere."To all of you that are taking place in the protest, I believe the time has come for you to take down the barricades, stop the disruptive action, and come together. The economy you want to see reopen is hurting. Farmers manufacturers, small businesses, and families are suffering. I believe this is not what you want to do," she said, likely referring not just to the main Ottawa protest, but the much more economically impactful Ambassador Bridge protest in Windsor, Ontario, where hundreds of millions of dollars of trade between the US and Canada pass each day."You're protesting because you love your country, and you want your freedom back. To the protestors here in Ottawa, you came bringing a message. That message has been heard. Conservatives have heard you, and we will stand up for you and all Canadians who want to get back to normal life. We will not stop until the mandates have ended."Today though, I'm asking you to take down the blockades. Protest peacefully and legally. But it's time to remove the barricades and the trucks for the sake of the economy, and because it's the right thing to do," she concluded."

So you agree with the aims of the protesters? You think the Canadian government acted wrongly this last year with their mandates and border closures?

I will admit that I am quite outdone that my wife and had planned a vacation in Canada this year and we were shut out and instead spent several $1000 dollars in Alaska instead. It was a trip we had been looking forward to and like most U.S. Americans and Canadians we looked at the Canada/U.S. border as only slightly more inconvenient than one of our state borders.

This bullsheit has cost Canada a huge amount of money and goodwill for what we now know was no good reason.

Hugh;
Good morning and thanks so much for that sir!

I looked and looked for that and was unable to find it.

While I'm not quite sure I agree with her position or believe it's going to damage the Conservative politically, I believe I get the point she's making.

The pickle is that the Conservative alone quite conceivably can't get the NDP/Lib/BQ coalition to make effective change you know?

She's walking a tight rope here, I hope it turns out well for her and them because at present they're the only right of center party who has any hope of forming a government.

My gut feel this morning is that the situation on the borders might have the US government do something - hopefully remove their sanctions - because science reasons and then that'd allow Prince Hide 'n Ski to do the same?

Or Hide 'n Ski will continue to dig in and double down.

If the the BQ and NDP would be so inclined, they could for a nonconfidence motion too I suppose?

I shall continue to pray that God's will gets done here Hugh, and that we have the strength to deal with whatever that looks like.

We'll see for sure, but thanks so much again sir.

Dwayne

I agree that it is time to end the government’s policy now.

Uhhh, errr , well, ummm

Dwayne, I'd suggest that the protests need to continue until the NDP and BQ come onside, because then JustRun will have no support.

The only way to deal with a tyrant is to take away his enablers.

Wannabebwana;
Morning sir, thanks for the reply.

Your assessment seems logical to me for sure.

I was just watching Doug Ford live and you all now have a provincial State of Emergency declared.

Again I have no concept of all the ramifications of that, but here in BC it meant there were funds available outside the regular budget - this was fires and floods here last year.

I'll continue to pray for everyone involved and all of us for that matter.

All the best.

Dwayne

There was a fella on the AR political forum (back before I got banned) named CrazyHorseConsulting. He came to an untimely end when he got out of his truck to open a gate and the truck ran over him. Facts vs beliefs. He believed he had put the truck in park when, in fact, he hadn't.

CHC was much like our Stevie. He was a world-class fence-sitter who pulled splinters out of his ass every night. He'd never take a position on anything until it was absolutely safe to do so ie. always ensuring he was on the winning side. Instead, he'd preach "objectivity" and his favourite question was "but how do you KNOW?" for things that were plain on their face.

Objectivity is great. Analysis paralysis is not.

Dwayne, from the looks of it, Doug Ford is doubling down, making it illegal to protest for more than say, 5 minutes. "Make your point and go home".

This will not end well for him.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8612348/ontario-doug-ford-border-protests-announcement/

Ford just insured Trudeau retains his job, right there in front of the entire Country.

Not one word about mandates, they never even entertained the thought.
I haven't changed my thoughts from the moment this thing began, we are being delivered up to globalists for a one world government.

Yep and anyone who can't see what's happening is willfully blind. A one world government where there is no voting and no alternative.

The government knew everything they needed to about covid about 2 months in. It was into the 3rd world, the least immune, most vulnerable 4.5 billion humans on the planet and it did little damage. Ranks still about the same level as diabetes or slightly worse than TB. At that point we should have toned the response accordingly.

A lot of these peoples barely locked down or had any ability to socially distance either. 1/3 of the worlds population has no plumbing or elec meaning they commune in high density areas 2-3x per day just to draw water or buy live food or they die in 72 hours. Thats a full transmission environment, and when covid hit the projections were losses of tens of millions a month.

What did we find according to all the thousand of western managed disaster relief centres, UN projects, independant clinics across the world? How many instances of anyone getting 1-3% death counts anywhere ? 50%, 20%, 1%? Nope not one. We have a super virus that after three variants still only disrupts the world about as much as TB, apart from the damage our governments have done themselves... three times.

Not to mention the money burnt from all these lockdowns could have built an entire new medical system in most 1st world countries

If you think that level of bad math, blundered response, repeated illogical decisions and social destruction is worth considering, I suggest you go back to the 5th grade and brush up on math, geography , social studies, actually everything.




The financial hardship hasnt even started yet. Im in international shipping where freight costs have jumped 1000-1500%. Most things in your life arrive from a 40ft sea container and these costs will soon be passed on. There is a price to be paid for these lockdowns and it wont be sorted out by some govt stimulus pack. We are in for about a generations hardship here.