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Further thought?
With America really and truly divided?
Would Russia still hold the strategic reserves located in Alaska? Would there even be a Russia without American intervention in WW II?
Would the United States have had the industrial might to rescue Britain as they fought the Germans in the late 30s and early 40s? And could we have also stopped Japanese Imperialism in the Pacific?
With a broken America, there is a good chance German would be the national language of Britain. And Japanese delivered genocide would be the standard of life from New Zealand to Hawaii to Korea to Vietnam, and across most of mainland China.
If Germany had conquered England, what would have become of Canada? Would we today have Nazi Fascists across our Northern Border?
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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If Germany had conquered England, what would have become of Canada? Would we today have Nazi Fascists across our Northern Border?
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"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question.
Tell me the odds of putting grease on the same pancake? I Know they are there, well ice and house slippers. -Kawi
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that?
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that? Nothing dumb about the question, it’s a question. I’m not compelling you to give an answer, feel free to keep your opinions on this subject to yourself if giving an answer offends you so obviously.
Tell me the odds of putting grease on the same pancake? I Know they are there, well ice and house slippers. -Kawi
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that? Did you not use your bible to defend it?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that? Nothing dumb about the question, it’s a question. I’m not compelling you to give an answer, feel free to keep your opinions on this subject to yourself if giving an answer offends you so obviously. Why, of course I am for it. Lol
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that? Did you not use your bible to defend it? You’re a real dumbass.
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that? Did you not use your bible to defend it? You’re a real dumbass. Didn’t take me 3 posts to answer one question, dumbass.
Tell me the odds of putting grease on the same pancake? I Know they are there, well ice and house slippers. -Kawi
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that? Did you not use your bible to defend it? You’re a real dumbass. Didn’t take me 3 posts to answer one question, dumbass. It took you one to ask an idiotic question, retard.
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. The democrat leftists only have the power to put deprivation on us cause Lincoln destroyed the concept of sovereign states not answering in all things to the federal govt.
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You can’t have it both ways. The Republican Party was formed to fight the notion that men and women can be legally enslaved. If you are a Democrat wear that racialism proudly. Quit trying to fight a war that was lost over a century ago. It was fought and won to free men from slavery. If you like the deprivation that the democrat leftists have put on us then you deserve what you voted for. Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep]. JoeBob, are you for or against slavery? Honest question. What kind of dumbass question is that? Did you not use your bible to defend it? You’re a real dumbass. Didn’t take me 3 posts to answer one question, dumbass. It took you one to ask an idiotic question, retard. https://ultimatetattoosupply.com/bl...g-address-with-these-abe-lincoln-tattoosJoeBob, if you’re looking for some new ink ideas. You are welcome.
Tell me the odds of putting grease on the same pancake? I Know they are there, well ice and house slippers. -Kawi
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I have felt for many years that Lincoln was the father of the huge federal government we have today. The war gave him what he needed to implement it. He the same as admitted it when he made the statement that freeing the slaves was not it's purpose. It's purpose was to preserve the union. So ever since we have been taught that he was a great president and that he saved the union. That has been a diversion, in my eyes, to what the real purpose was. Never ever forget how near sighted most of us are. We view our world within the course of our own lifetimes. Men that form the future, whether for good or bad, do not. Lincoln was part of a master plan that is still playing out. This plan was forged in hell by the devil himself. There are no party lines in this. There is only good and bad. The Founders were on the side of good. They modeled this nation with God's approval. Any leader that goes against that has only one side to be in league with. Lincoln has also been portrayed as a man of God. I need to see evidence of that.
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At the same time, slavery was sharply declining in the upper South."
- The Economics of Slavery No worries, there was a ready market for selling slaves to meet the demands of the cotton and sugar cane growers. Families commonly broken up and sent in shackles to the slave markets down south. Decline or not, the surreal situation in both South Carolina and Mississippi was that the enslaved population actually outnumbered the entire free populations in those states. Anyhoo, any decline in Virginia slavery notwithstanding, no Black person, either escaped slave or legally free, was safe in the path of the Army of Northern Virginia under Lee when they went north into Pennsylvania in ‘63. All the Black people they could catch were sent to Virginia placed into slavery. On Robert E. Lee’s watch.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Lincoln was a victim of the circumstances of the time. States rights do not include defying the declaration or the constitution. The slavery issue was one that festered for years and grew into a derision that apparently could be cursed no other way except to destroy a generation of Americans. Lincoln lost his life protecting American sovereignty. We are still suffering the effects of Lincoln’s murder and the terrible reconstruction period that could’ve been much less painful had he been allowed to live. The democrat party still embodies the principles that led us into slavery and eventually civil war.
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I have felt for many years that Lincoln was the father of the huge federal government we have today. The war gave him what he needed to implement it. He the same as admitted it when he made the statement that freeing the slaves was not it's purpose. It's purpose was to preserve the union. So ever since we have been taught that he was a great president and that he saved the union. That has been a diversion, in my eyes, to what the real purpose was. Never ever forget how near sighted most of us are. We view our world within the course of our own lifetimes. Men that form the future, whether for good or bad, do not. Lincoln was part of a master plan that is still playing out. This plan was forged in hell by the devil himself. There are no party lines in this. There is only good and bad. The Founders were on the side of good. They modeled this nation with God's approval. Any leader that goes against that has only one side to be in league with. Lincoln has also been portrayed as a man of God. I need to see evidence of that. Well said. Both slavery and Lincoln were tools for evil IMO. I certainly do not like slavery. Our country would have been best off to have never brought them here in the first place. Even Lincoln said something to the effect that Africans were not compatible with the white race that founded this country and we’re still paying that price. Having said that Lincoln paved the way for the destruction of the US a country founded with Gods blessing.
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I'm old enough to remember the children of reconstruction.
The hate is real, and deserved.
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The very name of our country should give a pretty good clue as to what our founders intent was. The United States of America. A state in the traditional sense and as known at our founding was a nation state… A country. The idea of the United States of America being that we were to be a group of independent countries within North America united for national defense and a handful of policies but otherwise independent and free to do as each state (country) saw fit.
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Well I’ve been saying for a few years balkanization is coming but now it will destroy us more
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The very name of our country should give a pretty good clue as to what our founders intent was. The United States of America. A state in the traditional sense and as known at our founding was a nation state… A country. The idea of the United States of America being that we were to be a group of independent countries within North America united for national defense and a handful of policies but otherwise independent and free to do as each state (country) saw fit. Yup. Kinda like the NRA (or any other union). Criminals will find a way to corrupt anything.
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