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Originally Posted by CrazyCoot
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Crazycoot, do you handload? If you do, what caliber you can load, set up for? Got the components, etc?


No, I don't handload.


Then the answer is easy. 308 Win.

Ammo for that is available again and should stay that way. With a 150-165 grain bullet and a 200 yard zero, you can hold on hair all the way out to 400 (if you are a set and forget shooter). Lots of great gun options to pick from as every manufacturer chambers their budget and premium offerings in 308.

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For the non handloader the new cartridges, Creedmore, prc , etc. offer generally better ammo from the factory. You said out to 400 yds. so not too far and it being a lease I am assuming a stand or at least all shots can be taken from a good solid rest. 200-400 yds can be easily covered by literally all but the average short range guns. A laser ( sigsauer makes an inexpensive but good laser) are needed to eliminate guessing. Once you know range and know your guns trajectory it is all quite simple. Whether you make adjustments to your shot by hold or a reticle or even turning knobs is up to you. All that said , In your situation anything from a 243 up should be fine.

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308 Win. Long range.
Less than 200, my favorite is the 250-3000 Sav.

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It's not rocket surgery. Pick almost any deer cartridge that you've heard of in the last 100 years.


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7 Mag with Nosler 160 A/bond or 168 ABLR at 2900-3000 fps depending on the rifle.


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Originally Posted by Sbrown
308 Win. Long range.
Less than 200, my favorite is the 250-3000 Sav.



I am of the same thought on the .250 Savage, my initial plan was using the .250 Savage as a 100 yard or less tree stand rifle. My first 3 deer killed were taken from a lasered 177 to 342 yards. All 3 deer died quickly.

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A vote for the 270 or 7mm RM, both personal favorites.

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Originally Posted by Gojoe
I've never shot a deer at over 100 yards. But I use a 30-06 for most of my hunting. It is said that an '06 is never a wrong choice.


The 30/06 is NEVER a bad choice. Put a Burris Fullfield II-- 3x9 ballistic plex and go hunting. You're set for life.

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Originally Posted by Utahunter
My favorite rifle for hunting deer and everything else I'll ever hunt is my push feed Model 70 Featherweight 7X57. It's topped with a 1980s vintage Burris 4X scope. All I load it with are 160 grain Nosler Partitions and a stiff load of H4350 powder in R-P cases and WLR primers.


My favorite of all my hunting rifles too. Mine wears an older Leupold 3x9 Compact.

But if I’m expecting longer range shots, I’m going with my Remington Classic 700 264 Win Mag. With a 125 gr Partition, I’ve taken multiple antelope, mule deer, whitetails, and no telling how many feral hogs out to 400 yards with it.
And a truck load of coyotes with a 120 gr Ballistic Tip.

Furthest kill with my 7x57 Featherweight was probably 275 to 300 yards with a 140 Partition. Not that it won’t shoot further, I know my 264 Win Mag is just flatter shooting. Guess it gives me confidence since I’ve made most of my longer shots with it.

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I originally bought 270 as my deer rifle and have bought few other calibers since then. I still reach for the 270 as my main deer squeeze. 140s just shy 3050fps will reach out and touch them.
I also have the 6.5 which has nice low recoil and have also used for deer. Much cheaper over the counter vs 7-08.
I also really like shooting the 7.62x39 and with in 200 yards it would be just fine.


All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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Originally Posted by CrazyCoot

I'm considering a new gun for the upcoming season due to the new lease I was lucky enough to stumble on. It has some nice flat, open fields and I'm looking at some 200 - 400 yard shots. What is your favorite caliber for deer for those 200+ yard shots?


7 WSM is my favorite do-everything cartridge.


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Originally Posted by hanco
Very long list of cartridges that would work, might be easier to name those that won’t.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
.243 will kill deer DRT and 22-250 doesn't play games either.

Got that right. All one of my buddies ever uses on deer is a 22-250. Deer are not hard to kill... I'd buy a new fast twist 22-250 and play around with some heavies.. I'm limited to what I can run in my 1 in 12 and 1 in 14 twist rifles, but even the lighter pills whack deer pretty good. 55gr Hornady interlocks come to mind... For the op's requirement of 200 yards. Damn near anything will work.


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The 25.06 with a 120gr bullet.


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308 win or any member of the family. 243 is a great choice but none of them will be bad for what you want. There is no need to jump up to the 06 family or any of the magnums. 223 might be bare minimum unless you're surgical with it but the 22-250 should have enough speed to do what you want. If you're not a handloader then go with something that's available


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