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Death is the only answer.

We supposed to off ourselves now?



No, kill the commies. I'm sorry that was difficult to understand.

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My guess is that at the end of the day, nothing changes, other than some people being without money and a job. A NICE protest is not the answer any longer.

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Anyways
heyyyyyy, lots of trucks sitting idle until mandates are lifted. I don't hear anything from MSM, they don't want to talk about that I guess.
Wonder how long until they come out with a story there?...kinda hard to spin doctor that one.

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Hey guys,

It’s been a few days since I have given an update.

Things changed quite a bit in a very short amount of time and updates didn’t seem very important at the time.
People were still showing up from around the country on Friday to protest. Many were still on their way to town when police started their crackdown on Rideau. Due to the low numbers of people in the area, it didn’t take forces long to push through Rideau to the start of Wellington. The line was held for as long as possible but everyone knew that the area couldn’t be held. With horses trampling people and protestors being maced and hit with batons the numbers steadily decreased. The weekend crowd hadn’t arrived in time and many were nervous with the threats against their assets.

Friday was the worst day for police brutality. Trudeau needed justification for his invocation of the emergencies act and it seemed many police were trying to incite violence to do so. I was very proud to watch how people from across the nation held their heads high and remained peaceful over the weeks proceeding but this was something else. Protestors were now being beaten, assaulted and threatened and yet no one gave in to their anger in a negative way. As numbers were slowly dwindling on the front line, someone was ready to step in. They refused to act out in violence and instead acted out of love. Those protesting begged for officers to stand down, to go home. They let them know they didn’t need to be there, that it was a choice. They offered hugs and prayers for those in front of them. I noticed right away that all the officers on the front line were from out of town. Forces that had not seen what had truly been happening over the prior weeks, it would be easier for them to hold their line. Local officers were spread out behind the protestors, many not wearing masks and most were engaged with people. These officers seemed to not want to be there. Most of them had been there and had seen how peaceful and joyful the freedom protest had been.

Had police forces wanted they could have easily taken all of Wellington on Friday alone. They dragged it out and seemed to enjoy it.
With the elderly Mohawk woman trampled, many in the crowd quickly seized the moment to put out that she had been killed. Those that put that information out new that the report was false but it gave an opportunity for those in their seats to question police action. By Saturday, the SIU had opened an investigation and the mounted police were held back behind the line. Saturday seemed to fly by as forces quickly pushed down Wellington all the way to Bank st. Forces also pushed south down the side streets which also saw confrontations and police brutality. Reporters and protestors on these streets both saw beatings from mainly Vancouver police forces as I have been told. On the main front on Wellington, you could start to see police questioning their positions as people continued to beg, pray and encourage officers to leave or stand down. No officer could hold eye contact for more than a few seconds, though some seemed to try in defiance. They all quickly turned away, some with tears in their eyes and shifted uneasily in their boots. There was the odd officer that seemed to brandish their baton, looking as of they were eager to use it if given the chance.

The tactics of the day had mostly changed to pepper spray. With the eyes of the world watching and the protestors remaining peaceful, though defiant, it was hard to justify using the horses or batons now. More people had shown up on Saturday despite the threats against them though it was nothing like the crowds on the weekends before. Those that did show up were more prepared with masks and goggles. Medics volunteering their time brought water, milk and eye wash for those being sprayed and helped in any capacity they could. The line held at Bank for the day but eventually the cold set in and the people couldn’t take shifts to warm up like the forces could.

By Sunday it was pretty well over. A few people were out on the street but most knew that there was nothing more to do. Everyone was tired from weeks of being in Ottawa and now they were trying to help each other out. Most arrested were released and back to their trucks on the hill or hotel rooms within four hours. Some were threatened to sign conditional release forms before being released while others were simply just let go. Some I talked to were driven out of the city and dropped off and told to figure it out while others were brought to their truck on Wellington or Rideau and told to drive it out of there and asked not to return.

There are many stories of people being beaten and having their bank accounts locked out. Several stories have come in of Veterans that refused to leave the war memorial; which they had been guarding 24/7 since removing the fence that had been around it; were badly beaten. I hope these stories will get out to the world.


I am still in Ottawa. I decided that there are still some stories that need to be told though many are reluctant to talk now. The feelings of joy that filled this area have now been replaced by fear and mistrust. Not only mistrust in the government and police but also by those local to the area that seem to be filled with rage against any that supported the protests. It’s been hard to try and engage with anyone now because of this and all are afraid. Two locals I have met, both immigrants, are now looking to return to their native countries. They have lived through tyranny and revolutions in their own countries already and they do not wish to be apart of another. Their views on this country have been shattered and everything is now questioned in their minds. Canada was supposed to be a safe and respectable country that was tolerant of all…

So many people here in Ottawa opened their arms and welcomed the convoy when it showed up. For three weeks they laughed and smiled, danced and sang. There was food for all and a joyous community was created. Within a couple days that beautiful world was crushed and I can see the depression settling back in already.

The protest zone became a safe place for all proven by the posted stats from the Ottawa police that admitted crime had fallen over 90%. Global, CBC and CTV constantly reported on the few crimes in the area that did happen but they never came out directly against the protestors in their articles as they couldn’t. While they implied it was protestors causing disturbances and indulging in criminal behaviour, it was quite the opposite and the articles remained vague on WHO was to blame for this reason.

As I walk through the streets now, even with a remaining heavy force of officers, you can see a return of vagrants to the area. I feel bad for those that have to remain here and watch a return of what has become the Trudeau normal. I know this fight is not over though and I still hear reports that many from the convoy have stuck around and regrouped around the city with a plan to return. They are still calling on all Canadians to remain protesting every weekend, to take back this country peacefully.

There is much to say and reflect upon. There are many questions to be answered and I feel the coming months could prove difficult for most. I hope the people have not lost faith and have instead been emboldened by one another to push forward even harder.

Take care all, Nash


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Nashville;
Thanks for the update, I appreciate it very much.

I am going to continue to pray for you and your BIL who should be arriving home later today God willing, until you both land back home safely.

All the best, take care and God bless.

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Yes, thanks Nashville.
Protests are still ongoing around here as this globalist government here in BC is possessed by a madman, and its looks like they will be the last ones on this Continent to drop mandates of any kind, I just ignore them.

I am not the only either as last weekend I went to a pub with my son, no mask in sight, no passports, standing room only, 250 people, best time ever, the pub owner was beside himself as he has been beaten down for two years and destitute. I don't go to pubs normally, but was invited by others that are a free people.

People are challenging the mandates now, after this government has destroyed lives, business, families, its time for government to back off.

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Nashville thanks for the update. Personally I believe what has happened with the protests was of great value to the country and what happened at the end created an awakening that will not go away. The stain on the legacy media, the governing party and select individuals in addition to Trudeau ( Freeland and Jagmeet ) is significant. The international support with simialr actions as an outcome is noticeable as well. I am thankful for for the small outlets and people like you that took the time and risks to put out the on the ground messages. I think there will be change coming. It may take up to an election cycle but change is coming.

All the best.



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Thanks Nash. Like Hugh, I think changes are coming. Thanks to the truckers and folks like you who have shined a bright light on the depth of corruption in a large percentage of our politicians and of course MSM. I think its safe to say that Trudeau's actions shook some to the core. One of the most surprising things to me is the number of police they were able to get that didnt seem to have a problem using force to oust peaceful law abiding protestors. History really does repeat itself. Hitlers era proved to the world that it doesnt take much to turn some people evil.

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A real leader.....listen from the 12 through 14 minute mark for his comments on Canada..
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ron-desantis-covid-19-florida-anthony-fauci/2022/02/24/id/1058412/#

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Glad you’re home safe Nash—the pic on Facebook of you holding your child was very touching—God Bless

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Wow That is so sad to hear. Thanks for the update. If you see your BIL tell him he has many supporters down herein N Idaho



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Hey guys,

It’s been a few days since I have given an update.

Things changed quite a bit in a very short amount of time and updates didn’t seem very important at the time.
People were still showing up from around the country on Friday to protest. Many were still on their way to town when police started their crackdown on Rideau. Due to the low numbers of people in the area, it didn’t take forces long to push through Rideau to the start of Wellington. The line was held for as long as possible but everyone knew that the area couldn’t be held. With horses trampling people and protestors being maced and hit with batons the numbers steadily decreased. The weekend crowd hadn’t arrived in time and many were nervous with the threats against their assets.

Friday was the worst day for police brutality. Trudeau needed justification for his invocation of the emergencies act and it seemed many police were trying to incite violence to do so. I was very proud to watch how people from across the nation held their heads high and remained peaceful over the weeks proceeding but this was something else. Protestors were now being beaten, assaulted and threatened and yet no one gave in to their anger in a negative way. As numbers were slowly dwindling on the front line, someone was ready to step in. They refused to act out in violence and instead acted out of love. Those protesting begged for officers to stand down, to go home. They let them know they didn’t need to be there, that it was a choice. They offered hugs and prayers for those in front of them. I noticed right away that all the officers on the front line were from out of town. Forces that had not seen what had truly been happening over the prior weeks, it would be easier for them to hold their line. Local officers were spread out behind the protestors, many not wearing masks and most were engaged with people. These officers seemed to not want to be there. Most of them had been there and had seen how peaceful and joyful the freedom protest had been.

Had police forces wanted they could have easily taken all of Wellington on Friday alone. They dragged it out and seemed to enjoy it.
With the elderly Mohawk woman trampled, many in the crowd quickly seized the moment to put out that she had been killed. Those that put that information out new that the report was false but it gave an opportunity for those in their seats to question police action. By Saturday, the SIU had opened an investigation and the mounted police were held back behind the line. Saturday seemed to fly by as forces quickly pushed down Wellington all the way to Bank st. Forces also pushed south down the side streets which also saw confrontations and police brutality. Reporters and protestors on these streets both saw beatings from mainly Vancouver police forces as I have been told. On the main front on Wellington, you could start to see police questioning their positions as people continued to beg, pray and encourage officers to leave or stand down. No officer could hold eye contact for more than a few seconds, though some seemed to try in defiance. They all quickly turned away, some with tears in their eyes and shifted uneasily in their boots. There was the odd officer that seemed to brandish their baton, looking as of they were eager to use it if given the chance.

The tactics of the day had mostly changed to pepper spray. With the eyes of the world watching and the protestors remaining peaceful, though defiant, it was hard to justify using the horses or batons now. More people had shown up on Saturday despite the threats against them though it was nothing like the crowds on the weekends before. Those that did show up were more prepared with masks and goggles. Medics volunteering their time brought water, milk and eye wash for those being sprayed and helped in any capacity they could. The line held at Bank for the day but eventually the cold set in and the people couldn’t take shifts to warm up like the forces could.

By Sunday it was pretty well over. A few people were out on the street but most knew that there was nothing more to do. Everyone was tired from weeks of being in Ottawa and now they were trying to help each other out. Most arrested were released and back to their trucks on the hill or hotel rooms within four hours. Some were threatened to sign conditional release forms before being released while others were simply just let go. Some I talked to were driven out of the city and dropped off and told to figure it out while others were brought to their truck on Wellington or Rideau and told to drive it out of there and asked not to return.

There are many stories of people being beaten and having their bank accounts locked out. Several stories have come in of Veterans that refused to leave the war memorial; which they had been guarding 24/7 since removing the fence that had been around it; were badly beaten. I hope these stories will get out to the world.


I am still in Ottawa. I decided that there are still some stories that need to be told though many are reluctant to talk now. The feelings of joy that filled this area have now been replaced by fear and mistrust. Not only mistrust in the government and police but also by those local to the area that seem to be filled with rage against any that supported the protests. It’s been hard to try and engage with anyone now because of this and all are afraid. Two locals I have met, both immigrants, are now looking to return to their native countries. They have lived through tyranny and revolutions in their own countries already and they do not wish to be apart of another. Their views on this country have been shattered and everything is now questioned in their minds. Canada was supposed to be a safe and respectable country that was tolerant of all…

So many people here in Ottawa opened their arms and welcomed the convoy when it showed up. For three weeks they laughed and smiled, danced and sang. There was food for all and a joyous community was created. Within a couple days that beautiful world was crushed and I can see the depression settling back in already.

The protest zone became a safe place for all proven by the posted stats from the Ottawa police that admitted crime had fallen over 90%. Global, CBC and CTV constantly reported on the few crimes in the area that did happen but they never came out directly against the protestors in their articles as they couldn’t. While they implied it was protestors causing disturbances and indulging in criminal behaviour, it was quite the opposite and the articles remained vague on WHO was to blame for this reason.

As I walk through the streets now, even with a remaining heavy force of officers, you can see a return of vagrants to the area. I feel bad for those that have to remain here and watch a return of what has become the Trudeau normal. I know this fight is not over though and I still hear reports that many from the convoy have stuck around and regrouped around the city with a plan to return. They are still calling on all Canadians to remain protesting every weekend, to take back this country peacefully.

There is much to say and reflect upon. There are many questions to be answered and I feel the coming months could prove difficult for most. I hope the people have not lost faith and have instead been emboldened by one another to push forward even harder.

Take care all, Nash

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Originally Posted by kkahmann
Glad you’re home safe Nash—the pic on Facebook of you holding your child was very touching—God Bless


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Good morning sir, I hope you're well and keeping warm.

Just a quick clarification, the young man holding the child is not Nashville, but his BIL - aka - Crackpot Farmer.

Nashville has the redder hued beard.

Thanks for following them though and if you're so inclined please join me in praying for Nashville at least until he gets home as well.

All the best and God bless.

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ribka;
Top of the morning to you sir, I hope you're all keeping warm enough in north Idaho this morning, you can't be any warmer than we are and we're chilly for our part of the world.

For sure I'll agree that it was sad to read and very tough to watch, but I'm going to suggest that it was expected and perhaps even necessary.

Many of my fellow Canadians did not believe the extent the current government regime would go to in order to quell/smash/suppress this movement. Some still don't for sure, but the evidence is out there now for those who might be interested in learning the truth.

I'd further suggest that like AA, we Canadians are not going to get better until we admit we've got a problem.

That said, I'm cognizant too that just because we admit we've got a problem does not guarantee success as each and every one of us knows an addict who did not survive.

I'm praying and hoping that it's not too late for us as individuals and collectively as a nation, as well as working towards that.

Only God knows what the final outcome looks like though I believe, but I'm still very human and would prefer to live in peace rather than strife of course.

We'll see.

All the best and God bless.

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Thanks for the clarification Dwayne I keep gettin them confused and have all week.
I’m glad they at least had each other during these trying times.
Iam feeling a little lonely because for me Canada has been changed forever while most of my friends and acquaintances locally don’t seem to realize that.

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The comments by Nashville seem very biased to me. Being retired I was able to watch hours of the activity in Ottawa over several days, as did members of my family. As an example he says he spoke to people who are thinking of returning to their home countries due to what they saw. He then blames this on the government and the police. He fails to acknowledge that had the protestors not been there none of the conflicts would have occurred.

In my opinion if the protestors had spent two or three days and then left their message would have been heard and police activity would have been unnecessary.

No acknowledgment is made of the grief created for the residents living in the downtown area whose sleep was disturbed for weeks. Also the loss of business created by the truckers presence.

I won't try to use any other examples since this crowd will try to disavow my comments any way. You would not admit to the number of people out there who do not support what the protestors were doing and felt the local police chief was, at least, partly to blame for being so slow to take action to bring things under control.

There, now every one is free to continue with their distortions.

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Jim;
Good afternoon to you sir, I hope you're either getting better weather than we are or if not that the woodpile is amply stocked at your house.

With the understanding that I'm not trying to engage in a bladder pressure contest with you or anyone - here or ever - I'll offer the following.

When you were watching hours of activity on the streets, were you doing it on independent channels such as VivaFrei on YouTube or via some legacy media?

Like you, I watched and also listened on headphones while I was doing other tasks, then would watch some of the reporting from the legacy media to compare what I had seen to what they were saying.

The loss of business created by the truckers presence was the result of the Ottawa mayor giving an order to businesses in the area to shut down wasn't it? There were a couple coffee shop owners interviewed who defied the order and one interview I watched the owner said he'd had better sales in that time than he had in the past couple of years. It looked like he was being honest, but who can say for sure?

The noise would indeed have been a problem and that's likely why the judge ordered it to stop at night quite early on.

Please understand I'm not attempting to disavow your statements, merely answering and/or asking questions based upon what I saw - albeit on the other side of the country.

If I've intentionally written or suggested anything on this topic or any that I intentionally distorted my statements to put my opinion in a better light, I'm sorry. I do not recall doing that and do my best not to make a practice of it either.

My intention is to have people question what they see and are told, to dig beyond the usual sources, to ask hard questions and attempt to get answers that make sense.

In my opinion then, if the protest had only lasted a couple days, it would not have shown me personally the degree to which both the legacy media as well as some members of the government will misrepresent what I saw. Again what "saw" was for sure videoed by a number of different independent folks as well as the legacy media cameras as well.

Finally I'd suggest that we're all going to view life through the lens of our own personal experiences. I'm not certain how we could do otherwise?

I will personally stop at calling them distortions however, but respect your opinion and right to do so.

All the best and God bless.

Dwayne

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watching the state run low IQ CBC I see. So you think Sikh truckers are white supremacists too? lol Im betting you're a union cowardly govt worker like Steve and stayed home during the pandemic hiding under your bed while truckers busted their butts to keep stores stocked and the country running. . right?

Its too bad the western provinces can't cut off Ontario. lmao

Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
The comments by Nashville seem very biased to me. Being retired I was able to watch hours of the activity in Ottawa over several days, as did members of my family. As an example he says he spoke to people who are thinking of returning to their home countries due to what they saw. He then blames this on the government and the police. He fails to acknowledge that had the protestors not been there none of the conflicts would have occurred.

In my opinion if the protestors had spent two or three days and then left their message would have been heard and police activity would have been unnecessary.

No acknowledgment is made of the grief created for the residents living in the downtown area whose sleep was disturbed for weeks. Also the loss of business created by the truckers presence.

I won't try to use any other examples since this crowd will try to disavow my comments any way. You would not admit to the number of people out there who do not support what the protestors were doing and felt the local police chief was, at least, partly to blame for being so slow to take action to bring things under control.

There, now every one is free to continue with their distortions.

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Jim, like Steve would first to call the police on you and your family for not following some ridiculous mandate



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Jim;
Good afternoon to you sir, I hope you're either getting better weather than we are or if not that the woodpile is amply stocked at your house.

With the understanding that I'm not trying to engage in a bladder pressure contest with you or anyone - here or ever - I'll offer the following.

When you were watching hours of activity on the streets, were you doing it on independent channels such as VivaFrei on YouTube or via some legacy media?

Like you, I watched and also listened on headphones while I was doing other tasks, then would watch some of the reporting from the legacy media to compare what I had seen to what they were saying.

The loss of business created by the truckers presence was the result of the Ottawa mayor giving an order to businesses in the area to shut down wasn't it? There were a couple coffee shop owners interviewed who defied the order and one interview I watched the owner said he'd had better sales in that time than he had in the past couple of years. It looked like he was being honest, but who can say for sure?

The noise would indeed have been a problem and that's likely why the judge ordered it to stop at night quite early on.

Please understand I'm not attempting to disavow your statements, merely answering and/or asking questions based upon what I saw - albeit on the other side of the country.

If I've intentionally written or suggested anything on this topic or any that I intentionally distorted my statements to put my opinion in a better light, I'm sorry. I do not recall doing that and do my best not to make a practice of it either.

My intention is to have people question what they see and are told, to dig beyond the usual sources, to ask hard questions and attempt to get answers that make sense.

In my opinion then, if the protest had only lasted a couple days, it would not have shown me personally the degree to which both the legacy media as well as some members of the government will misrepresent what I saw. Again what "saw" was for sure videoed by a number of different independent folks as well as the legacy media cameras as well.

Finally I'd suggest that we're all going to view life through the lens of our own personal experiences. I'm not certain how we could do otherwise?

I will personally stop at calling them distortions however, but respect your opinion and right to do so.

All the best and God bless.

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Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
The comments by Nashville seem very biased to me. Being retired I was able to watch hours of the activity in Ottawa over several days, as did members of my family. As an example he says he spoke to people who are thinking of returning to their home countries due to what they saw. He then blames this on the government and the police. He fails to acknowledge that had the protestors not been there none of the conflicts would have occurred.

In my opinion if the protestors had spent two or three days and then left their message would have been heard and police activity would have been unnecessary.

No acknowledgment is made of the grief created for the residents living in the downtown area whose sleep was disturbed for weeks. Also the loss of business created by the truckers presence.

I won't try to use any other examples since this crowd will try to disavow my comments any way. You would not admit to the number of people out there who do not support what the protestors were doing and felt the local police chief was, at least, partly to blame for being so slow to take action to bring things under control.

There, now every one is free to continue with their distortions.

Jim


Yep, I always accept the comments of the state-run media and armchair warriors over those of people who are right in the fuqqing thick of it. :rolleyes:

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