Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Deer Hunting Has B.C. score obsession ruined deer hunting?

I just told you I had his blessing to post you dumb son of a bitch.

its been a long dark winter

So, where you hunt all stay in one place and don’t move around? Or before they do, let others know where they are going?

Or are your hunting areas that small and confining?

It certainly has.

Not really Scott. Some things never change, and winter has nothing to do with it.

Do people where you hunt routinely take shots where they are not sure of the background? Whether private or public?

How 'bout it. You have a better chance of dying in a vending machine accident than being shot dead in the deer woods.

Trespassers can AND DO sue landowners for injury constantly. An injured hunter can and will do so as well even with verbal hunting permission. Close friend in upstate paid for a claimant's knee surgery plus a pain and suffering settlement. Claimant had a clearly documented medical history of having a bad knee which was later disclosed in discovery. Guess what? He decided to try to climb an icy slope in Bean boots. Got his long overdue surgery paid in full as the insurer thought it cheaper to just settle.

Written permission is not worth the paper it is written on either. Ask any practicing attorney.
Even when signing waivers that are witnessed by a notary or a lawyer they mean very little to a jury. A large entity landowner recently paid out a court ordered judgement to a trespassing bicycle rider who RAN INTO A LOCKED GATE!

Leasing for hunting requires minimum insurance coverages by an insurer, or cash bonding if self-funding.

Liability is the biggest subject of concern (second to tax increases) that I discuss with my neighbors. Some actively farm, others simply manage their forest resources.
LIABILITY is BY FAR the biggest reason I'm given by landowners for lands being posted in the Northeast. Not QDM.

Don't be fooled in to thinking every case that gets filed gets thrown out. Most end up at least paying out medical bills for physical injuries. And for legal counsel.
Even if it is baloney or frivolous regardless of signage posting or painted boundaries.

ATV/UTV's have made it even worse.

Land damages, trash dumping, outright theft and other illegal activities always costs the landowner. Catch them in the act and still get no relief.

Many of us landowners have tried the open doors policy. Rarely does it work like it did in the past.

It's not hard to tell takers from givers. End the end, one might be punished for their good deeds.

GOL 9-103 "Commonly referred to as the recreational use statute. Affords landowners immunity from liability based on a failure to keep premises safe for entry and use by others for specific recreational activities including , hunting, fishing, coanoeing, boating, trapping, hiking and cross country skiing."

I don't know when or where your supposed instances happened but this law was amended/strengthened in 2018. I only have 10 acres here but it is not posted and I haven't had any trouble in the 14 years I've lived here. Not much to hunt but I know people go through it sometimes when hunting the neighboring property. Had one guy stop along the road out front a few years back, walk across my side yard decked out in blaze orange and carrying a rifle. It was deer season so no doubt he was going hunting. I didn't say a word. Late that afternoon I happened to be outside when he returned from his hunt. I asked him what he'd seen and chatted for a bit when he asked who I was. When I told him I owned the place he immediately became apologetic. He said he had permission from the previous owner to park here and cross my land to hunt on the neighbors, hadn't been in a few years and didn't realize it had changed hands. I told him no problem just don't park too close to the mail box. He never parked out front here again after that.

I'm very familiar with NYS law. I'm also very familiar with court filings in multiple jurisdictions.

I'm simply stating there exists a liability issue and risks for landowners, corporate and individuals. It is fact. Believe it or not, that is your choice.

I do miss the old days, but they are gone I'm afraid.

OH, you could have posted *checks notes* GRANDPA'S land. Got it.

Safe to say it wasn't *YOUR* land to post in that instance? Correct?

I was very plain in my wording. So plain even a retard like you should be able to understand.

Years ago I took my boss hunting for his first time. He killed a small spike and had it mounted. It hung proudly on his living room wall. Next outing he shot a nice 6 point. However, he was never so proud taking that spike. A couple guys snickered but I think it's great. It's a trophy in his eyes and I was glad to take him....

That's great - good for him! That's really what it should be about.

Illuminating as always, thanks for playing.

Not around here. The majority that I’ve seen talk about “meat bucks”. I’ve a long season and decent amount of tags so I take my time looking for more meat on the hoof. Horns factor in after the second tag (of four) get punched.

Yup. I don't think the state should determine how big that buck should be. If you want to just shoot a big one, have at it. I have no problem at all with that. Any buck should be legal.

Depends on the crowd you roll with I guess. Out of a few dozen hunters that I know none of them have ever bothered to have a buck scored for B&C.

Like any guy I like to kill a big buck, but I'm just going to put a few in the freezer per year and if I happen to get a nice big buck then that's just icing on the cake.

In the coastal region of Alabama, nobody ever thinks about B&C or any other kind of record.