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Anyone have any first hand experience with the Sightron 3-16X42 FFP Mil reticle? SightronI am interested but I can't find any pictures anywhere of what one looks like looking through the scope. I have read several reviews on Sightron's site about the reticle being thin and easy to lose on the SFP MOA reticle. Assuming that the FFP reticle is even thinner on lower powers, I would like to see what it looks like and how visible it is in actual hunting environments. Also, does anyone own one and do you like it? I appreciate any assistance!
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I just picked up a Sightron SFP with the Duplex reticle from Cameraland on sale.I could have had one of these for the same money ,but was leery of the the FFP reticle.They have great glass.
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Leery? why? Seems like a lot of scope for just over $400.00 .
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How do these compair to the swfa 3-15 and the Athlon Midas tac and Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42
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How do these compair to the swfa 3-15 and the Athlon Midas tac and Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42 I would love to know this as well. Especially the Athlon Helos comparison.
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The reticle is super thin,even on 16.
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I should have the Athlon Helos in hand next Tuesday, and have had the A-Tac for a few weeks. Hopefully shoot ‘em both next weekend. Initial impressions of the S-Tac are good. The illumination will definitely help on the lower powers.
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I should have the Athlon Helos in hand next Tuesday, and have had the A-Tac for a few weeks. Hopefully shoot ‘em both next weekend. Initial impressions of the S-Tac are good. The illumination will definitely help on the lower powers. How tight is the eyebox? Particularly at higher power? I have read that the FOV is pretty narrow and the eyebox can be tight. But what is tight to some might be fine to me. My only point of reference is Leupold 2-7x33 and 3x9x33 EFR. How does the reticle do at lower power? Particularly against a mottled background like woods or brush? Is it hard to find?
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Crowhunter I think you are asking the right questions. Exit pupil nearing 16 power is going to be really small . Not a user of huge objective scopes but for 16 power I gotta think a 50mm objective a more appropriate minimum.
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Just pulled the trigger on the illuminated FFP. I'll report back when I get to use it some.
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The reticle is super thin,even on 16. And that can be a huge problem when you turn it down. How's the reticle when you are on 3x, 5x, 9x? That's the downfall of having a FFP on a hunting rifle. Some guys may like that, but I don't.
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The skinny-a$$ reticle in fading light can be a pretty huge problem when you're trying to kill stuff. I'll report back.
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I'll put some rounds through it tomorrow, but initial impression on this 3-16 FFP is that glass is as good or better than my LRTS and that the heavier part of the reticle is slightly darker/thicker/easier to see than my LRTS (which isn't a huge accomplishment) and the light gathering is decent. There's a zero stop on the elevation but the windage knob is probably too easy to turn. Clicks are positive. Reticle illum is bright.
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Followup: this thing tracks perfectly and overall feel of turrets, focus, power selector, illum, glass, is very good. Clicks match the reticle, turrets track in line with the reticle, the thick bars of the reticle are heavy enough to see at low power at dusk with the illum off.
At low powers, the reticle is much easier to see than my unlit LRHS, to my eye the glass is clearer than either my LRHS or any of my SS 3-9's. Haven't used the similarly priced Athlon but this seems to be another reliable sub-$1K scope. Sub-$500 at current prices. Will report more after I've beat on it some.
Overall I substantially prefer it over the LRHS in terms of glass clarity and the reticle. Only thing I like better about the LRHS (or SS 3-9) is that the windage knob is harder to bump on those scopes (impossible on the LRHS).
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Followup: this thing tracks perfectly and overall feel of turrets, focus, power selector, illum, glass, is very good. Clicks match the reticle, turrets track in line with the reticle, the thick bars of the reticle are heavy enough to see at low power at dusk with the illum off.
At low powers, the reticle is much easier to see than my unlit LRHS, to my eye the glass is clearer than either my LRHS or any of my SS 3-9's. Haven't used the similarly priced Athlon but this seems to be another reliable sub-$1K scope. Sub-$500 at current prices. Will report more after I've beat on it some.
Overall I substantially prefer it over the LRHS in terms of glass clarity and the reticle. Only thing I like better about the LRHS (or SS 3-9) is that the windage knob is harder to bump on those scopes (impossible on the LRHS).
That's encouraging to hear.
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Interested in trying one of these,i like the donut reticle on the btr for hunting.
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Followup: this thing tracks perfectly and overall feel of turrets, focus, power selector, illum, glass, is very good. Clicks match the reticle, turrets track in line with the reticle, the thick bars of the reticle are heavy enough to see at low power at dusk with the illum off.
At low powers, the reticle is much easier to see than my unlit LRHS, to my eye the glass is clearer than either my LRHS or any of my SS 3-9's. Haven't used the similarly priced Athlon but this seems to be another reliable sub-$1K scope. Sub-$500 at current prices. Will report more after I've beat on it some.
Overall I substantially prefer it over the LRHS in terms of glass clarity and the reticle. Only thing I like better about the LRHS (or SS 3-9) is that the windage knob is harder to bump on those scopes (impossible on the LRHS).
That's encouraging to hear. When stating that the reticle is "much easier to see on low powers than an unlit LRHS", is the the reticle on the Sightron lit when comparing the two?
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When stating that the reticle is "much easier to see on low powers than an unlit LRHS", is the the reticle on the Sightron lit when comparing the two?
This Sightron reticle, unlit, is much easier for me to see in dim light than the LRHS reticle, unlit. The skinny part of the crosshairs isn't all that much thicker (if at all) vs the LRHS, but the heavy bars are solid instead of partially solid, like on the LRHS. Smart folks bought the LRHS with illumination. I didn't. I'm going to use this for real for a while and report back.
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