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Let's face it....we really don't know what is going on over there. There are too many politicians with ulterior motives on both sides running the narratives through the main stream, lap dog media. I doubt Putin will concede any time soon, with his ego, unless unrest in Russia forces him to. I doubt the Russians have the means to challenge him, but miracles have happened.

Biden's also pimping the green agenda on Europe LOL. You know, the very pie in the sky strategy that made Europe completely dependent on Russian fuel and financed the invasion. Can't make this schit up.

I honestly wonder if Biden isn't a complete Muppet.

There is no way, NO WAY, these are his original thoughts and priorities.

Think back a few years, The US chased the Taliban out in a month. The US destroyed the Iraqi military and govt in a spectacular display of combined forces capability in a matter of a few weeks.

Then the trouble began. We lost more troops and spent more billions after the initial victories than we did on winning the initial war.

Insurgencies favor the the occupied and the ukes seem to be pretty capable of a prolonged and bloody insurgency. National will is often the deciding factor. I wonder about the number of troops and rubles the russkies will be willing to expend on an opposed occupation.

A little knowledge of history is more valuable than depending on utube and msm pundits.


YMMV



mike r

A few days ago on another forum I saw this same thing, had a list
Of all Americans convicted of military contract fraud and a list of all Russians convicted of the same. There were zero Russians on the list

There's no doubt about it. The true believers think that climate change is more of a threat than WWIII. Surprised they're not shaking their fists at Putin for not using EV tanks and solar missiles.

Most people with your proven piss poor track record would do less posting and more reading.

What would you say is your motivation that allows you to just keep on slogging?

None pushing to can be true believers, they keep buying Waterfront property which goes against their "science".

It's damned weird.

Biden's call for regime change in Russia may have made things a lot worse.

A cleanup crew behind every speech.

Trying to remember the last time a world leader called for regime change in the US in such clear terms.

Is this 8 days


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Oh dear

G2U

I think there are 5 different types of people in the "green movement". First you have the true believers that actually think the world is going to come to an end in the next decade, and they've been saying that now for 3-4 decades. Then you have the people who are using the green movement to enrich themselves, like the best con men out there. Next are the people who just jump on any cause because they're weak and need a cause to champion to feel better about themselves. Then you have the sheep who will push any agenda solely because the Democrat Party promotes it, whether it's stupid or not. Last, and possibly the most dangerous, are the people who are using climate change as a cover story to promote their Marxist wealth redistribution and population control tactics.

I think the danger is WHEN he said it, as opposed to after things stabilize, he did it during instability.

When the dust clears, and the Russians are 'defeated' they will have Donetzk, Luhansk and probably Kherson and it's port facilities....if you call that a win then we did win in the middle east eh?

Most definitely- I was talking about last time a German said America needed regime change - as example.

Putin should follow Biden's lead, cut and run tomorrow, and leave a few 100 billion worth of weapons behind. That, way, if there's every a need to go back in, it'll be 3 times harder.

I have very little doubt there are biolabs in Ukraine. For that matter BSL 4 labs are probably in most of countries with educated populations. We study all sorts of pathogens that require a BSL 4 lab to work on them. Crimean-Congo virus being just one of them. and just maybe one of the pathogens studied in one or more of Ukraine's bio labs since they might have a proprietary interest therein. There are no labs at higher BSL level than 4. That Ukraine may be studying BSL 4 pathogens and may have a few BSL 4 labs means nothing. Not like their neighbor who had a lot of labs dedicated to not just weaponizing pathogens, but also to manufacturing some of them like smallpox in mind boggling quantities, and have never offered anything other than a claim they got rid of it. Russia's credibility is a little more suspect after their claims they weren't going to invade Ukraine.

We have at least 4 BSL 4 labs in the US.

Yep.

On the bio lab issue, when you're a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail. People are trying so hard to microanalyze and propagandize what's going on, when they come across some novel information, they try to force it to fit into their narrative.