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Would have their brand of religion mandated by law?
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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I insist on one and only one religious mandate.
One should and, indeed, MUST be free of any and all mandates, restrictions, or intrusions in the free exercise of one's religious beliefs.
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No way. Merging church and state corrupts the church. Look at the Catholic Church of the Middle Ages. I do wish Christian values were more accepted/evident in government.
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I'll second that...with the qualification that the religion can be exercised up until it begins to infringe on another's natural rights.
(In response to Mickey D's comment)
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America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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There's no need and I have not even considered it until you posted this thread. True religion is not a head knowledge. It is a heart felt experience that leads you in life. To force that would defeat everything I believe in.
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One of the gentlemen from whom I am a spiritual descendant, J. Gresham Machen, opposed prayer in schools recognizing that a state-sponsored prayer would suit no one but statists. He also declined the invitation of William Jennings Bryan to take the stand as Bryan’s witness in the Scopes trial.
I think that most religious conservatives as you call us would be pretty libertarian on this question.
The problem from my point of view is that we have no common thread that gives our culture any cohesion any longer. We used to have morals that generally reflected the second tablet of the law of the OT but that has not only disappeared but been turned on it’s head.
Now many in the culture (take note of the first four letters of that word) would have their anti-religion enforced upon everyone, including even children.
This isn’t sustainable.
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Would have their brand of religion mandated by law? You can’t be serious? For any “religion”, mandating followers should be a gigantic red flag. Mandatory means you have no choice. My God had given us a choice of wether we wish to worship Him and accept the gift of His mercy. Islam has been spread by force, which tells me where it’s true beginning lies. 7mm
"Preserving the Constitution, fighting off the nibblers and chippers, even nibblers and chippers with good intentions, was once regarded by conservatives as the first duty of the citizen. It still is." � Wesley Pruden
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I don’t believe it would work out well. I want to be left alone, so I’d like to extend that same consideration to my fellow Americans.
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Would have their brand of religion mandated by law? By law? Nah. But many believe their chosen flavor is the one, true, bestest ever, flavor. All others are false and heretic. You know who they are.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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There's no need and I have not even considered it until you posted this thread. True religion is not a head knowledge. It is a heart felt experience that leads you in life. To force that would defeat everything I believe in. Well put, Jim. I think the OP is just trying to drag someone into the pit with him to argue so I’ll just agree with you and move on with my day.
Fear the crabcat.
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No way, No how, No chance. Get the picture?
I'm in Mickey D's camp also.
"Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants". --- William Penn
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What if all non Christian religions were banned. Would you support that?
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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There's no need and I have not even considered it until you posted this thread. True religion is not a head knowledge. It is a heart felt experience that leads you in life. To force that would defeat everything I believe in. Well put, Jim. I think the OP is just trying to drag someone into the pit with him to argue so I’ll just agree with you and move on with my day. Thanks, you make a good point.
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God made salvation a choice, so I go with Him. He's the creator of the universe....He knows best.
It's the Reprobates here on the forum who blaspheme God's Holy Name and prevent others from receiving His Gift who are intolerant ones and attack His messengers like the demons they follow.
No matter how many times we obey the Lord to proclaim the gospel, there will be some that will reject the message/ good news. The evil ones prevent God's message from going forth as a kind and free offer to others.
Jesus' gospel:
"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself." - Jesus
Luke 24
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life." -Jesus
John 6:47
See the brief videos explaining this gospel below. Praise the Lord!
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Would have their brand of religion mandated by law? By law? Nah. But many believe their chosen flavor is the one, true, bestest ever, flavor. All others are false and heretic. You know who they are. Yeah, he is here now....one post ahead of this'n.
I am MAGA.
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Would have their brand of religion mandated by law? By law? Nah. But many believe their chosen flavor is the one, true, bestest ever, flavor. All others are false and heretic. You know who they are. Yeah, he is here now....one post ahead of this'n. Others too.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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That ranks right up there with banning prayer in schools......
No law will do either!
"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867
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Would have their brand of religion mandated by law? By law? Nah. But many believe their chosen flavor is the one, true, bestest ever, flavor. All others are false and heretic. You know who they are. Yeah, he is here now....one post ahead of this'n. Others too. Like who?? The Big Green Egg guys? I cant stand those guys.....
I am MAGA.
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Now many in the culture (take note of the first four letters of that word) would have their anti-religion enforced upon everyone, including even children.
This isn’t sustainable. There is a state mandated religion. It is secular humanism mascarading as evolutionary science. If anyone does not believe this watch the movie Expelled: "No Intelligence Allowed" Don't read someone's opinion of it. Be intelligent enough to watch it yourself.
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