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None, if they are Americans.

Really, the question is moot because a sincere believer would understand that forcing compliance would be antithetical to the whole concept of Christianity. Only a blatant tyrant or a pretend believer would attempt to mandate the belief.

Odd question. Must be a backstory to it.

Christians know that being called by God to believe the Christian doctrine, is the basis of their belief.
Making Christianity the Law Of the Land just wouldn't do it...

I wonder who would be appointed the Czar to select the "non" Christian religions to ban?

Don't ever forget, a "ban" law would ultimately be enforceable at the point of Big Brother's gun. Always works that way.

L.W.

Respectfully, God made free will regarding whether a person will sin or not. It's NOT about salvation.

Ephesians : Chapter 2 : Verses 8,9,10,11

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in
Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

Backstory?
Yes. Often on this forum nonbelievers are declared to be " part of the problem". They are declared to be supportive of liberals.

I and I am sure many other nonbelivers are as sincere in our moral and conservative values as any Christian, even if we are unsure of the existence of God.

Freedom of religion must include the pagans, jews, muslims, hindus, buddhists, as well as freedom FROM religion.

I agree with those that understand that the Christian faith is more about a personal relationship, than a package of do's and don'ts. As such it's not possible to make it a mandated law. Not to mention I believe it would be taken over by government the way they take over and pervert so many ideas that people think are going to help. One example of this is the dept of energy. What a failure that has been.

Even God has given us all free choice (free will) to make our own decisions of what we believe and the way we live, that it can't be "mandated by law".

Its 2022, not 1202. Anyone worrying about tyranny coming to America from the Church is delusional. But best keep an eye on "globohomo".

This is at the bottom of your every post:
My ideal as a conservative:

That each person may reap as he/she has sown.


IT'S FROM THE BIBLE !

Galatians 6:7 - ...for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

2 Corinthians 9:6 - But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

That sure is a longwinded way of saying "Yes".

How about our Jew Conservatives, do they get a vote?

Well said.

Forcing my religious beliefs on someone else would be pointless. What we do need as efw said is a common culture. Generally agreed on socially excepted morals. A Baptist and a Lutheran can have differences over exact religious philosophy so long as they have a somewhat similar worldview. The same for any other generally mainstream Christian religions that were the cornerstones for Western culture and nuclear families over villages ect. A small group of atheists may hold similar worldviews and excepted societal standards and that’s works too.

What we have today in my opinion is a mostly secular or atheist society that given that philosophy has no reason to uphold traditional cultural norms. If it feels good do it. You only live once. Might is right ect, ect. We’ve become a short sighted selfish society with high divorce rates and out of wedlock children and very little to hold any of us together as a people or nation absent traditional Western values that are rooted in Christianity.

I agree 100% with your second paragraph. Nonbelievers that buys into traditional Western values are not the problem. The problem is that traditional Western culture and values are fundamentally rooted in Christianity. For most nonbelievers it will not make sense to embrace those cultural norms and values founded in traditional Christianity if an atheist.

I agree with the third paragraph to the extent that yes tolerance for all 100%. Functionally that’s easy when it’s a small percentage of the population. As we pump people into this country legally and illegally from all over the globe and have actively worked to rip apart Christianity from within with nothing in terms of faith, norms, or national pride diversity only makes things worse. Not talking about the occasional outsider type personality but wholesale diversity as a nation and culture rather than a mostly monolith is a weakness not a strength.

I believe the Muslims do this, if not by law, by coercion

Winner winner

What brand? Apple? That's a brand with a religious following.

HA ha, no one willingly turns anything of great value over to the government. That is a sure and certain way to destroy it. We should stick to supporting FREEDOM!!

That's ticklish, IS, but I understand what you're saying. I'd just say that both sides of the argument need to agree to disagree and avoid divisive rancor. It seems we conservatives are prone to it...it just seems to be inherent in conservative philosophy when you contrast us against the libs...they tend to get in lockstep with a position and mindlessly push it, independent thought be damned. We, OTOH, beat dead horses to death routinely. Go figure.

As far as "freedom from religion" goes, that's not a thing. The whole separation of church and state argument is null and void. I am sure you are aware that the concept originated in some correspondence between Thomas Jefferson (I think) and another party, in which Jefferson emphasized his belief that government had no business involving itself in religion---not the other way around. The invention of the concept of "separation of church and state" was simply twisting of those words.

I know quite a few decent fellows who I trust implicitly and think highly of, and who have no religious conviction. It does not relegate a guy to the status of slimeball. And I know of some who claim to be devout Christians who are, IMO, absolute slimeballs.

And that's all I have to say about that.

What is so hard to understand about the word "freedom"?

Nothing, I suspect, unless you are the type that wants to control others.

Can I say narcissist again, or all the Campfire narcissists gonna form a wave?