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Originally Posted by Fireball2
If Biden is for Ukraine, I'm against it.


AND all of the MSM.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
If Biden is for Ukraine, I'm against it.
Pretty good policy you have there.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I don't think you could get 4,000,000 Ukranian civilians to flee their homes for foreign countries if all this were nothing but propaganda from the Ukranian government.
I definitely believe bad sheit is going on over there. Just have no way of knowing what provoked it. For all I know the Ukrainians may have been found out doing something extremely detrimental to the Russians. We would never know. The Russians may have terrible motives, who knows?

Maybe we ought to figure that this is their fight and we have no part of it.





I agree. Lend-lease everything ukrainians need to fight their best fight and stay out of it. Watching all these idiots today actually calling for American boots on the ground about made me want to throw up.


Don’t give, lend or lease anything to either side it’s not our war.


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by Fireball2
If Biden is for Ukraine, I'm against it.


AND all of the MSM.




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Originally Posted by LBP
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I don't think you could get 4,000,000 Ukranian civilians to flee their homes for foreign countries if all this were nothing but propaganda from the Ukranian government.
I definitely believe bad sheit is going on over there. Just have no way of knowing what provoked it. For all I know the Ukrainians may have been found out doing something extremely detrimental to the Russians. We would never know. The Russians may have terrible motives, who knows?

Maybe we ought to figure that this is their fight and we have no part of it.





I agree. Lend-lease everything ukrainians need to fight their best fight and stay out of it. Watching all these idiots today actually calling for American boots on the ground about made me want to throw up.


Don’t give, lend or lease anything to either side it’s not our war.






We can disagree on that first part..

On the second, you're right. It's not OUR war. It's the neocon / globalist / DC MIC war.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by LBP
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I don't think you could get 4,000,000 Ukranian civilians to flee their homes for foreign countries if all this were nothing but propaganda from the Ukranian government.
I definitely believe bad sheit is going on over there. Just have no way of knowing what provoked it. For all I know the Ukrainians may have been found out doing something extremely detrimental to the Russians. We would never know. The Russians may have terrible motives, who knows?

Maybe we ought to figure that this is their fight and we have no part of it.


I agree. Lend-lease everything ukrainians need to fight their best fight and stay out of it. Watching all these idiots today actually calling for American boots on the ground about made me want to throw up.


Don’t give, lend or lease anything to either side it’s not our war.
We can disagree on that first part..
On the second, you're right. It's not OUR war. It's the neocon / globalist / DC MIC war.
The problem as I see it is that if we are actively shipping in military equipment to one side and putting economic sanctions on the other we could rightly be seen as making war by the side adversely affected.
If they are put in a desperate situation as was Japan they may very well pull a "Japan" on us.
Russians have a history of resorting to desperate measures in warfare.

I fail to see what is our big beef with Russia in this dispute. Why is Ukraine so important to the USA?


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by LBP
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I don't think you could get 4,000,000 Ukranian civilians to flee their homes for foreign countries if all this were nothing but propaganda from the Ukranian government.
I definitely believe bad sheit is going on over there. Just have no way of knowing what provoked it. For all I know the Ukrainians may have been found out doing something extremely detrimental to the Russians. We would never know. The Russians may have terrible motives, who knows?

Maybe we ought to figure that this is their fight and we have no part of it.


I agree. Lend-lease everything ukrainians need to fight their best fight and stay out of it. Watching all these idiots today actually calling for American boots on the ground about made me want to throw up.


Don’t give, lend or lease anything to either side it’s not our war.
We can disagree on that first part..
On the second, you're right. It's not OUR war. It's the neocon / globalist / DC MIC war.
The problem as I see it is that if we are actively shipping in military equipment to one side and putting economic sanctions on the other we could rightly be seen as making war by the side adversely affected.
If they are put in a desperate situation as was Japan they may very well pull a "Japan" on us.
Russians have a history of resorting to desperate measures in warfare.

I fail to see what is our big beef with Russia in this dispute. Why is Ukraine so important to the USA?





I just don't see Russia having a "right" to expansion. Send Ukraine javelins. Let the Russians punch themselves out. Rope a Dope. Maybe they'll be too busy licking their wounds for a couple decades.


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It's called War.
Nothing more
Nothing less......

People get killed...

Be thankful it aint in your neighborhood and you grow indifferent to it after awhile....

Picking a side outta both of these corrupt countries is laughable at best....

Meanwhile Buckethead central The Real Enemy pulling the strings worldwide is laughing their fuuucking azz,s off, and staging the next C19 bullschitt to ramp up for their Liberal Socialist Democrat minons in this nation to exploit to steal the midterm elections.
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Originally Posted by renegade50
It's called War.
Nothing more
Nothing less......

People get killed...

Be thankful it aint in your neighborhood and you grow indifferent to it after awhile....

Picking a side outta both of these corrupt countries is laughable at best....

Meanwhile Buckethead central The Real Enemy pulling the strings worldwide is laughing their fuuucking azz,s off, and staging the next C19 bullschitt to ramp up for their Liberal Socialist Democrat minons in this nation to exploit to steal the midterm elections.
A wonderful 3 peat of election fraud crafted in a lab.....



The only country more corrupt than them and China is the US.


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by Fireball2
If Biden is for Ukraine, I'm against it.

AND all of the MSM.

And Soros and FaceBook... I acknowledge that Putin is a bad dude and definitely not my friend. However, given that WHOLE BUNCH of folks who typically do NOT have my best interests at heart are supporting Ukraine, gives me pause... Back away and let THEM work it out. No need for American blood to be spilled to fill Soros's pocketbook.



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Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by renegade50
It's called War.
Nothing more
Nothing less......

People get killed...

Be thankful it aint in your neighborhood and you grow indifferent to it after awhile....

Picking a side outta both of these corrupt countries is laughable at best....

Meanwhile Buckethead central The Real Enemy pulling the strings worldwide is laughing their fuuucking azz,s off, and staging the next C19 bullschitt to ramp up for their Liberal Socialist Democrat minons in this nation to exploit to steal the midterm elections.
A wonderful 3 peat of election fraud crafted in a lab.....



The only country more corrupt than them and China is the US.

Yep....
Buckethead central currently owns the Honk for Joey administration......

It's all a spider web spun for decades worldwide since most favored nation trade status.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by jorgeI

Now all I need is to find an image of a fruitcake ....

He's a Navy veteran.
The Only Real Coverage Of The War In Ukraine,Veterans Today.

Has no bearing on what he is doing. I don't give a s*** if he was a Medal of Honor winner. Would not matter.
Sensationalized media on both sides of the war.. End of story. I'm not there and I don't believe any of it. Not a word.

I see that you didn't address my comments directed to you.

You old guys remain clueless about the current situation.

You're being dragged into the new world of instant information and out of the Fake News world in which you lived for most of your lives.Get used to it.

This guy is the real deal and has been reporting from that part of the world for more than 8 years.


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Soros came out with his own PSA encouraging US involvement in Ukraine early on to save the democracy. It didn’t last long. That’s really all that’s needed to keep us out of the war. But of course we’re already in it.


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Originally Posted by Orion2000
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by Fireball2
If Biden is for Ukraine, I'm against it.

AND all of the MSM.

And Soros and FaceBook... I acknowledge that Putin is a bad dude and definitely not my friend. However, given that WHOLE BUNCH of folks who typically do NOT have my best interests at heart are supporting Ukraine, gives me pause... Back away and let THEM work it out. No need for American blood to be spilled to fill Soros's pocketbook.
I agree, NO need for USA blood or money to be poured down this bottomless pit.


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The U.S. has sent perhaps 20B to Ukraine over the last 12 years and just approved another 13.6B.

We need to stop propping up these scumbags,who steal from their own citizens and then involve them in wars.

Zelensky and his fellow thieves have stolen billions from U.S and Ukrainian citizens.Zelensky had many opportunities to avoid war but instead did the bidding of NWO and continued to instigate for war.He then fled to Poland and only returns for photo-ops with his Nazi Azov Battalion.

Zelensky's financial backer, Kolomoisky, stole 4B from his own bank,fled Ukraine and now spends his time between Israel and Switzerland.The whole Jewish cabal of Nuland,Yavanovich,Soros,Kolomoisky,Zelensky and many others have stolen billions from U.S and Ukrainian citizens,while instigating for war with Russia.They then duped our politicos into sending billions more of our tax money to further pad their off-shore accounts.

They have successfully,with the help of the corporate controlled fake news,duped the world into believing the Russians are the instigators.Everyone knows that Putin is a tyrant and tyrants murder to stay in power.It's relatively easy to blame Putin for this whole scenario,while the real culprits steal billions from sympathetic citizens of the world

The best outcome would be for the Russians to capture Zelensky and have him squeal on his fellow international thieves and bust this whole money laundering cabal wide open.





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Rene you've experienced combat and you understand the horrors, the suffering of innocent people and the seriousness of getting into another war. The chicken hawks and draft dodgers like Biden and Obama and Clinton. and their ardent supporters and virtue signaling goobers, not so much

Originally Posted by renegade50
It's called War.
Nothing more
Nothing less......

People get killed...

Be thankful it aint in your neighborhood and you grow indifferent to it after awhile....

Picking a side outta both of these corrupt countries is laughable at best....

Meanwhile Buckethead central The Real Enemy pulling the strings worldwide is laughing their fuuucking azz,s off, and staging the next C19 bullschitt to ramp up for their Liberal Socialist Democrat minons in this nation to exploit to steal the midterm elections.
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Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by jorgeI

Now all I need is to find an image of a fruitcake ....

He's a Navy veteran.
The Only Real Coverage Of The War In Ukraine,Veterans Today.

Has no bearing on what he is doing. I don't give a s*** if he was a Medal of Honor winner. Would not matter.
Sensationalized media on both sides of the war.. End of story. I'm not there and I don't believe any of it. Not a word.

I see that you didn't address my comments directed to you.

You old guys remain clueless about the current situation.

You're being dragged into the new world of instant information and out of the Fake News world in which you lived for most of your lives.Get used to it.

This guy is the real deal and has been reporting from that part of the world for more than 8 years.







Get your self-aggrandizing head out of your ass. You don't have a clue. I was working on internet communications when the letters were streaming across the screen and long before it was graphical. You're the one who needs to wake the hell up. Ass-umers like you have no clue of the accumulated knowledge of "old guys". You couldn't hold a candle to the technical knowledge I have, or lot of other "old guys", for that matter. But feel free to keep pretending you know wtf you're talking about.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt =old_dirt
Get my self-aggrandizing head out of my ass. You don't have a clue. I was working on internet communications when the letters were streaming across the screen and long before it was graphical. You're the one who needs to wake the hell up. Ass-umers like myself have no clue of the accumulated knowledge of "old guys". You couldn't hold a candle to the technical knowledge I think I have, or lot of other "old guys", for that matter. But feel free to keep pretending you know wtf you're talking about.


Looks like I struck a nerve old dirt.

Why don't you teach us millennials about the situation in Ukraine,instead of bragging about nonsense.lol


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Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by local_dirt =old_dirt
Get my self-aggrandizing head out of my ass. You don't have a clue. I was working on internet communications when the letters were streaming across the screen and long before it was graphical. You're the one who needs to wake the hell up. Ass-umers like myself have no clue of the accumulated knowledge of "old guys". You couldn't hold a candle to the technical knowledge I think I have, or lot of other "old guys", for that matter. But feel free to keep pretending you know wtf you're talking about.


Looks like I struck a nerve old dirt.

Why don't you teach us millennials about the situation in Ukraine,instead of bragging about nonsense.lol






Funny part is, I'm not trying to teach anybody anything about Ukraine. I'm not there. You're the one barking at anybody who may slightly oppose your opinion.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by local_dirt =old_dirt
Get my self-aggrandizing head out of my ass. You don't have a clue. I was working on internet communications when the letters were streaming across the screen and long before it was graphical. You're the one who needs to wake the hell up. Ass-umers like myself have no clue of the accumulated knowledge of "old guys". You couldn't hold a candle to the technical knowledge I think I have, or lot of other "old guys", for that matter. But feel free to keep pretending you know wtf you're talking about.


Looks like I struck a nerve old dirt.

Why don't you teach us millennials about the situation in Ukraine,instead of bragging about nonsense.lol






Funny part is, I'm not trying to teach anybody anything about Ukraine. I'm not there. You're the one barking at anybody who may slightly oppose your opinion.




Stop modifying my post when you quote me, you phony fugk. The true sign of an internet pussy.


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