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the war is bidens way of making sure he doesn't get investigated for dirty dealings in ukraine. Are you saying Biden somehow convinced Putin to invade Ukraine? You know it is true. The USA and NATO have been pushing Ukraine to threaten Russia for years. Trump pulled back from that course of action which is one reason among others he had to go. Ukraine needed to maintain its position as a buffer state, but no it got involved with U.S. politicians for "Foreign Aid" money they could all steal and divvy up.
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the war is bidens way of making sure he doesn't get investigated for dirty dealings in ukraine. Are you saying Biden somehow convinced Putin to invade Ukraine? You know it is true. The USA and NATO have been pushing Ukraine to threaten Russia for years. Trump pulled back from that course of action which is one reason among others he had to go. Ukraine needed to maintain its position as a buffer state, but no it got involved with U.S. politicians for "Foreign Aid" money they could all steal and divvy up. Got it, you believe Putin is Biden's puppet. So long as you're on record.
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the war is bidens way of making sure he doesn't get investigated for dirty dealings in ukraine. Are you saying Biden somehow convinced Putin to invade Ukraine? You know it is true. The USA and NATO have been pushing Ukraine to threaten Russia for years. Trump pulled back from that course of action which is one reason among others he had to go. Ukraine needed to maintain its position as a buffer state, but no it got involved with U.S. politicians for "Foreign Aid" money they could all steal and divvy up. Got it, you believe Putin is Biden's puppet. So long as you're on record. Read it again. You got that mixed up. Obama, Biden, NATO are rightly perceived by Russia as threatening. U.S. politicians are taking this opportunity to steal and divide up the foreign aid money with Ukrainian politicians. War is profitable and allows plenty of opportunity for stealing.
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The same Yids that orchestrated & funded the Napoleonic Wars, WW1 & 2, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and all others in between, current war in Ukraine is also their doing, the mass genocide of 60 million Christians in Russia & Ukraine post WW2 was all the same Yids, what's happening in the USA is Yids at the helm, UN, NATO same, same Someone has his eyes open.
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NATO has been corrupted for many years. It is led by dictators and miscreants that cannot abide by the rules they impose on other nations. This is all with America's blessing and our financial support. Ukraine has always been corrupt and has been used as a cash cow by America's political elite and that's provable. The current leader is a puppet that answers to Ukraine's Oligarch financial giants, America and NATO. The government has been committing genocide on Russian speaking population, Donbas in particular. The Biden Administration worked with Ukraine and NATO to get them fast tracked into the NATO alliance. Putin warned that there would be consequences and so it came to pass. Putin is protecting Russian speaking people in Ukraine that have been bombed and murdered for over eight years. he is keeping NATO from installing missiles on his border. This is all with Biden's blessing. Biden needs this to hide his own corruption along with congressional cronies that have benefitted from the bleeding of America's tax money for family profit. So yes, Tyler old Horse America is in fact culpable in this mess. Bingo! Solid gold.
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the war is bidens way of making sure he doesn't get investigated for dirty dealings in ukraine. Are you saying Biden somehow convinced Putin to invade Ukraine? You know it is true. The USA and NATO have been pushing Ukraine to threaten Russia for years. Trump pulled back from that course of action which is one reason among others he had to go. Ukraine needed to maintain its position as a buffer state, but no it got involved with U.S. politicians for "Foreign Aid" money they could all steal and divvy up. Correct.
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The same Yids that orchestrated & funded the Napoleonic Wars, WW1 & 2, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and all others in between, current war in Ukraine is also their doing, the mass genocide of 60 million Christians in Russia & Ukraine post WW2 was all the same Yids, what's happening in the USA is Yids at the helm, UN, NATO same, same Someone has his eyes open. Every once in awhile I'm pleasantly surprised.
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the war is bidens way of making sure he doesn't get investigated for dirty dealings in ukraine. Are you saying Biden somehow convinced Putin to invade Ukraine? You know it is true. The USA and NATO have been pushing Ukraine to threaten Russia for years. Trump pulled back from that course of action which is one reason among others he had to go. Ukraine needed to maintain its position as a buffer state, but no it got involved with U.S. politicians for "Foreign Aid" money they could all steal and divvy up. Got it, you believe Putin is Biden's puppet. So long as you're on record. Read it again. You got that mixed up. Obama, Biden, NATO are rightly perceived by Russia as threatening. U.S. politicians are taking this opportunity to steal and divide up the foreign aid money with Ukrainian politicians. War is profitable and allows plenty of opportunity for stealing. I asked you a direct question, which you responded "you know its true". Then you provide nonsense about Ukraine threatening Russia. What threats did Ukraine make again?
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NWO .. This is a Three Leg Stool ..
US, Russia, Chena
US is a Zombie being used as a Sledge Hammer on Russia.. Think I’m kidding You ..
Look at your President and The Clown Show on the Potomac..
Putin saw this on his Underbelly.. Cash .. Collusion with the Oligarchs ..
Now we’re going to have a War .. US ..Them..
Mordor on the Potomac isn’t interested in Deal to end the Conflict..
The Psychopaths want a Conflict.. To many Reasons Why..
After the Constitution is Destroyed by Martial Law under a War Footing and Russia is Drained into a Warlord State the NWO comes in and reorganizes everything under some Virtuous State of Being ..
Next is Chena..
NWO may have already struck and Alliance judging the Interaction of Larry Fink , Bloomberg,Schwartmen, Gates , Others ..
Most of the EU Psychopaths which seem to be Emulating Chena Dictatorial Governance..
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[quote=Hastings]I asked you a direct question, which you responded "you know its true".
Then you provide nonsense about Ukraine threatening Russia. What threats did Ukraine make again? Maybe killing ethnic Russians, cozying up to NATO, being armed up by NATO and the U.S., operating bio-labs near their border. You do know that NATO considers Russia its only adversary and therefore its only reason for being? How would we feel if a country named us as enemy #1 and started arming Mexico and putting bio-weapons labs on our border and Mexico started killing U.S. nationals inside its borders? Also, you and I don't have any idea what NATO and the U.S. have been up to in the way of threatening Russia. As if our news media would report it if they knew.
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I see Biden want to give the corrupt oligarchs of Ukraine another 30 billion in US tax payer dollars. Have you see the stats on our economy this year? lol Surprising Biden useful idiots prefer a war war over America's future the war is bidens way of making sure he doesn't get investigated for dirty dealings in ukraine. Are you saying Biden somehow convinced Putin to invade Ukraine? You know it is true. The USA and NATO have been pushing Ukraine to threaten Russia for years. Trump pulled back from that course of action which is one reason among others he had to go. Ukraine needed to maintain its position as a buffer state, but no it got involved with U.S. politicians for "Foreign Aid" money they could all steal and divvy up. Got it, you believe Putin is Biden's puppet. So long as you're on record. Read it again. You got that mixed up. Obama, Biden, NATO are rightly perceived by Russia as threatening. U.S. politicians are taking this opportunity to steal and divide up the foreign aid money with Ukrainian politicians. War is profitable and allows plenty of opportunity for stealing. I asked you a direct question, which you responded "you know its true". Then you provide nonsense about Ukraine threatening Russia. What threats did Ukraine make again?
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The CIA did this People ..
Now your going to pay for it in a many Peculiar Ways..
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[quote=Hastings]I asked you a direct question, which you responded "you know its true".
Then you provide nonsense about Ukraine threatening Russia. What threats did Ukraine make again? Maybe killing ethnic Russians, cozying up to NATO, being armed up by NATO and the U.S., operating bio-labs near their border. You do know that NATO considers Russia its only adversary and therefore its only reason for being? How would we feel if a country named us as enemy #1 and started arming Mexico and putting bio-weapons labs on our border and Mexico started killing U.S. nationals inside its borders? Also, you and I don't have any idea what NATO and the U.S. have been up to in the way of threatening Russia. As if our news media would report it if they knew. Is that really the best you have? Seriously? Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and they've been fighting that war ever since. But Ukraine is threatening Russia? Killing ethnic Russians? Half of Ukraine is ethnic Russian...the one's they are killing are those literally attacking Ukrainian sovereignty; those in active battle against the country. You believe no country bordering Russia can have arms? Remember in 1993....Ukraine had what? The third largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Bio-labs? You mean the same labs that the Soviets operated before Ukraine became sovereign? Please....You're making leaps here to justify Putin. Remember, Putin invaded, not Ukraine. I'll ask you one last time, what threats did Ukraine make against Russia?
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What threats did Ukraine make again? There's a near perfect parallel between the circumstances that led to this NATO vs Russia war and those that led to WWII. For Germany, substitute Russia. For Poland, substitute the Ukraine. Germany, like Russia, had only recently (prior to conflict breaking out) been forced to surrender vast important regions of its nation. Poland, like the Ukraine, was a recently manufactured nation, and had the backing of globalist powers seeking the ultimate destruction of, in one case, Germany, and in the recent case, Russia. In both cases, the globalists sought to provoke the target power (Russia or Germany) into conflict by encouraging, in one case, Poland, and in the other, the Ukraine, to behave provocatively towards the target power (Russia or Germany), which eventually succeeded in bringing about open warfare. The provocations were even the same, i.e., hostility towards ethnic Russians (in ethnically Russian provinces) under Ukrainian control, and hostility towards ethnic Germans (in ethnically German provinces) under Polish control. The parallels are really quite striking to the relative few who have a knowledge of the authentic history of the lead-up to WWII. Most, however, only have exposure to the, cartoon-like, official history (essentially, an extension of WWII Allied war propaganda) of that lead-up, and won't see the parallels.
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Maybe re-read your history, The Real The Hawkeye.
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Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and they've been fighting that war ever since. But Ukraine is threatening Russia? Russia has had military bases in Crimea since before the breakup of the USSR. When the relatively friendly Ukrainian government was overthrown by a CIA-sponsored coup in 2014 and replaced with a hostile, Nazi government, Russia logically moved to protect it Crimean assets - similar to what the US did in Cuba regarding Guantanamo. The Russian majorities in Donbas seceded from Ukraine because they were already familiar with the Nazi rhetoric of genociding ethnic Russians. After they seceded, the Ukrainians tried to move forward with their genocide plan.
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What threats did Ukraine make again? There's a near perfect parallel between the circumstances that led to this NATO vs Russia war and those that led to WWII. For Germany, substitute Russia. For Poland, substitute the Ukraine. Germany, like Russia, had only recently (prior to conflict breaking out) been forced to surrender vast important regions of its nation. Poland, like the Ukraine, was a recently manufactured nation, and had the backing of globalist powers seeking the ultimate destruction of, in one case, Germany, and in the recent case, Russia. In both cases, the globalists sought to provoke the target power (Russia or Germany) into conflict by encouraging, in one case, Poland, and in the other, the Ukraine, to behave provocatively towards the target power (Russia or Germany), which eventually succeeded in bringing about open warfare. The provocations were even the same, i.e., hostility towards ethnic Russians (in ethnically Russian provinces) under Ukrainian control, and hostility towards ethnic Germans (in ethnically German provinces) under Polish control. The parallels are really quite striking to the relative few who have a knowledge of the authentic history of the lead-up to WWII. Most, however, only have exposure to the, cartoon-like, official history (essentially, an extension of WWII Allied war propaganda) of that lead-up, and won't see the parallels. Right
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Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and they've been fighting that war ever since. But Ukraine is threatening Russia? Russia has had military bases in Crimea since before the breakup of the USSR. When the relatively friendly Ukrainian government was overthrown by a CIA-sponsored coup in 2014 and replaced with a hostile, Nazi government, Russia logically moved to protect it Crimean assets - similar to what the US did in Cuba regarding Guantanamo. The Russian majorities in Donbas seceded from Ukraine because they were already familiar with the Nazi rhetoric of genociding ethnic Russians. After they seceded, the Ukrainians tried to move forward with their genocide plan. You keep trying to justify it to yourself, buddy. Whatever Q says....
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