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Raised the rate on what I charge clients for my machinery usage by $5 an hour. Had no choice. Probably won't be at where I was year before last on profit margin at that. But I'm strictly an Ag Service provider, and probably can't raise rates much more and keep my client base. If it gets TOO expensive, they'll just "Do without"... Sad we are in this position.
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were i work we fill up the work truck & the welding machine on the way back then add it to the bill . some days it is 75/100 bucks
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that.
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Inflation like we've never see it.
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that. That bale wrap ain't getting any cheaper either.
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I supply a niche market here with small square bales for the horse farms. I raised my prices last year and I see I will again this year, big time.
Last week I got a call from one of the farms wanting more bales and I delivered a load and left my bill. Got a call from lady's husband complaining I charged more than the loads delivered last year. I reminded him the cost to fill up my truck went thru the roof and be prepared for a substantial increase this season because of fuel costs to harvest and deliver hay. He was kind of a jerk about it, probably voted for Biden.
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I supply a niche market here with small square bales for the horse farms. I raised my prices last year and I see I will again this year, big time.
Last week I got a call from one of the farms wanting more bales and I delivered a load and left my bill. Got a call from lady's husband complaining I charged more than the loads delivered last year. I reminded him the cost to fill up my truck went thru the roof and be prepared for a substantial increase this season because of fuel costs to harvest and deliver hay. He was kind of a jerk about it, probably voted for Biden. A lot of people will become jerks this year. Especially the horsey women folks who have no clue about what hay prices should be and what all effects the price. Usually the ones that buy 4- 6 bales at at time. I felt lucky to get some 3x3's, 735 pounds delivered for $135.The local feed store wants $160. No grass to speak of and I will probably have to buy another four to last until next years,since I am feeding thru the summer
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At the current price of feed we are going through about $2k per day.
Thank God we are able to produce most of our own feed. (or we'd be broke.....lol)
Need to get some of these cows out on grass!
Horses(5) go through a 1200lb bale per week. But they left the feeder and are grazing now.
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I supply a niche market here with small square bales for the horse farms. I raised my prices last year and I see I will again this year, big time.
Last week I got a call from one of the farms wanting more bales and I delivered a load and left my bill. Got a call from lady's husband complaining I charged more than the loads delivered last year. I reminded him the cost to fill up my truck went thru the roof and be prepared for a substantial increase this season because of fuel costs to harvest and deliver hay. He was kind of a jerk about it, probably voted for Biden. A lot of people will become jerks this year. Especially the horsey women folks who have no clue about what hay prices should be what all effects the price. Usually the ones that buy 4- 6 bales at at time. I felt lucky to get some 3x3's, 735 pounds delivered for $135.The local feed store wants $160. no grass to speak of and I will probably have to buy another four to last until next years,since I am feeding thru the summer Yeah, a lot of buyers may become jerks....or might be the same jerk as before, just making it obvious now....grin... I'm on the outside looking in.....but....if you didn't let them know anything about the cost increase until after the fact, I can understand their irritation. I picked up several loads of hay last year. I drive to their farm, they load with a bale handler, I drive home and unload, back and repeat the process three times. I've been buying from this guy for over a decade. He didn't tell me about his price increase until the last load was loaded and I was going to pay him. I had no problem with his price increase. I'm not there to cheat him and I understand a price increase for higher costs or even the reason of just making more profit. His product, he can price as he wishes. I did have a problem with him not telling me until it was time to pay. I pay in cash and already had the envelop with exact cash......had to make another trip back over to pay the remaining. He could have let me known when I called to make the order or on any of the trips to load up. I like the guy and I'll continue using him but it did seem underhanded not to let me know until after. Not a judgement on you, just my experience from the buyer side.
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I had to replace a tire on a hay tedder yesterday. Luckily for me, they had one in stock and at last years price. Not too bad, total for tire, tube, and labor was $52.50. The owner of the place told me that tires have gone up so much in price that he had to be careful when pricing them to people, because there is often a price increase between the time he orders and when they are delivered.
I also replaced the wheel bearings, as one was shot, and they have gone up about $5 a piece since last year.
While I was waiting on the tire, I was talking to my neighbor who farms my row crop land, and he told me that lime was now close to $50 a ton by the time you bought it and spread it. Lucky for us that we got some for our pasture last fall.
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I supply a niche market here with small square bales for the horse farms. I raised my prices last year and I see I will again this year, big time.
Last week I got a call from one of the farms wanting more bales and I delivered a load and left my bill. Got a call from lady's husband complaining I charged more than the loads delivered last year. I reminded him the cost to fill up my truck went thru the roof and be prepared for a substantial increase this season because of fuel costs to harvest and deliver hay. He was kind of a jerk about it, probably voted for Biden. A lot of people will become jerks this year. Especially the horsey women folks who have no clue about what hay prices should be what all effects the price. Usually the ones that buy 4- 6 bales at at time. I felt lucky to get some 3x3's, 735 pounds delivered for $135.The local feed store wants $160. no grass to speak of and I will probably have to buy another four to last until next years,since I am feeding thru the summer Yeah, a lot of buyers may become jerks....or might be the same jerk as before, just making it obvious now....grin... I'm on the outside looking in.....but....if you didn't let them know anything about the cost increase until after the fact, I can understand their irritation. I picked up several loads of hay last year. I drive to their farm, they load with a bale handler, I drive home and unload, back and repeat the process three times. I've been buying from this guy for over a decade. He didn't tell me about his price increase until the last load was loaded and I was going to pay him. I had no problem with his price increase. I'm not there to cheat him and I understand a price increase for higher costs or even the reason of just making more profit. His product, he can price as he wishes. I did have a problem with him not telling me until it was time to pay. I pay in cash and already had the envelop with exact cash......had to make another trip back over to pay the remaining. He could have let me known when I called to make the order or on any of the trips to load up. I like the guy and I'll continue using him but it did seem underhanded not to let me know until after. Not a judgement on you, just my experience from the buyer side. My wife took the call from the horse lady who wanted 3 loads of hay and explained to her that we could sell her only one load because we have other customers that may need additional hay this time of year. My wife also told her that there is a price increase. The horse lady said: "I understand about the price, everything has gone up." It is evident the horse lady did not pass on the information to her husband.
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that. That bale wrap ain't getting any cheaper either. If you can find it. Local JD dealer has been out of both wrap and twine and doesn't know when they'll see more. Luckily my main hay guy bought a bunch at the end of season last year. He says he will try to keep his price increase to $5 / 800 lb round this year.
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that. I assume you mean wrapping wet or silage hay, not baleing
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Some places down here, round bales are already past the $100 mark.
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I supply a niche market here with small square bales for the horse farms. I raised my prices last year and I see I will again this year, big time.
Last week I got a call from one of the farms wanting more bales and I delivered a load and left my bill. Got a call from lady's husband complaining I charged more than the loads delivered last year. I reminded him the cost to fill up my truck went thru the roof and be prepared for a substantial increase this season because of fuel costs to harvest and deliver hay. He was kind of a jerk about it, probably voted for Biden. Horse people for you.
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that. I assume you mean wrapping wet or silage hay, not baleing They wrap a good bit of it up thos way. Looks like big marshmallows out in the fields.
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that. I assume you mean wrapping wet or silage hay, not baleing I do my hay two ways. The wheat hay is rolled wet, net wrapped, then the bales are wrapped in plastic, stacked end to end, in a long row. Some people call it silage hay, others balege, as it does ferment. The guy who does it for me charged $9 to roll, and $9 to wrap, for a total of $18 a roll. It's expensive doing it that way, but it also results in a better quality hay. The grass hay is rolled and stored in a stack covered with a tarp. That costs me $8.50 a roll, as another farmer rolled it for me. I cut it and rake it myself, and do everything but bale it.
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I supply a niche market here with small square bales for the horse farms. I raised my prices last year and I see I will again this year, big time.
Last week I got a call from one of the farms wanting more bales and I delivered a load and left my bill. Got a call from lady's husband complaining I charged more than the loads delivered last year. I reminded him the cost to fill up my truck went thru the roof and be prepared for a substantial increase this season because of fuel costs to harvest and deliver hay. He was kind of a jerk about it, probably voted for Biden. Horse people for you. Crazy horse women, and crazy cat women have the same amount of insanity in them. Only thing is, the crazy horse women have to have lots more $$$ to feed their insanity.
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that. I assume you mean wrapping wet or silage hay, not baleing They wrap a good bit of it up thos way. Looks like big marshmallows out in the fields. That's how we feed our horses in the winter.
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I hire a couple of local farmers to roll and wrap my hay. They both went up on their prices this time. They were charging me $8 a roll to bale, and one went up to $8.50, and the other to $9. The one who wraps it, also went up a dollar a roll. With diesel fuel having doubled in price, I'm shocked they didn't go up more than that. I assume you mean wrapping wet or silage hay, not baleing I do my hay two ways. The wheat hay is rolled wet, net wrapped, then the bales are wrapped in plastic, stacked end to end, in a long row. Some people call it silage hay, others balege, as it does ferment. The guy who does it for me charged $9 to roll, and $9 to wrap, for a total of $18 a roll. It's expensive doing it that way, but it also results in a better quality hay. The grass hay is rolled and stored in a stack covered with a tarp. That costs me $8.50 a roll, as another farmer rolled it for me. I cut it and rake it myself, and do everything but bale it. sounds cheap . I was charging 12.50 to bale 4x6 last year mow rake Bale 4x5 19 a bale last year ... Wrapping wet hay it takes almost 2x as much plastic to do "marshmallow" style individual wraps per bale as continues row wrap . Around here most charge $10 plus wrap ..per bale
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Custom balers here get $25 per bale, cut, and baled.
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I try to charge according to size bale . Add extra for wet hay and knifed out ( chopper baler)
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The two guys I use are both Mennonites, and they usually are very fair with what they charge, Roll size on these is 4X5, I prefer larger rolls, but one advantage of the 4X5 rolls is that I can handle them with my compact NH if I have to. The tractor I use to feed with was in the shop a couple of weeks last winter, and I used the TC45 to set the rolls in the hay bunk. Larger rolls might have been a challenge.
I have mulled over buying a baler, but I would only be baling about 200 rolls a year, and I can't see that I can justify it.
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A friend of mine is done seeding his own stuff and is now doing some custom work.
Charging same rate as last year($18/acre) but you pay for fuel. (and obviously seed, fertilizer, etc)
He is working on 3k acres and I asked him how much for fuel.
$10k.
+500hp JD tractor, 2/3 gallon of fuel per acre. Which really isn't that bad of mileage.
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My wife took the call from the horse lady who wanted 3 loads of hay and explained to her that we could sell her only one load because we have other customers that may need additional hay this time of year. My wife also told her that there is a price increase. The horse lady said: "I understand about the price, everything has gone up." It is evident the horse lady did not pass on the information to her husband. Sounds like you did everything as best you could, fair and upfront.
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Custom balers here get $25 per bale, cut, and baled. I charged $20 last year with a 3 roll minimum per acre. Hopefully this year I won't have to do any hay besides for myself.
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Custom balers here get $25 per bale, cut, and baled. I charged $20 last year with a 3 roll minimum per acre. Hopefully this year I won't have to do any hay besides for myself. All you got to do say no if you don't like making any money
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I supply a niche market here with small square bales for the horse farms. I raised my prices last year and I see I will again this year, big time.
Last week I got a call from one of the farms wanting more bales and I delivered a load and left my bill. Got a call from lady's husband complaining I charged more than the loads delivered last year. I reminded him the cost to fill up my truck went thru the roof and be prepared for a substantial increase this season because of fuel costs to harvest and deliver hay. He was kind of a jerk about it, probably voted for Biden. He got his free shots too
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