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I also use H-4350 for 165 gr '06 loads. this
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4064, 4895, and Varget for me. Not going for the Nth Degree of performance/efficiency, just accuracy, and these powders deliver it. Besides, whatever .30-06 ammo on my shelf has to be compatible with the Garands if I get a wild hair and feel like shooting it. Dave Emary has posted that the original Hornady M1 Garand match load was 46.5 grains of Varget under a 168 grain Amax. A friend of mine was getting started with a Ruger American in 30-06 and bought several factory loads to try out. I put together a box of the Emary load for him using the Hornady BTHP instead of the Amax. Did my usual procedures for low runout. After the range trip my friend told me that was the best grouping ammo he'd ever shot.
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RE15, RE17, RE19 all work well for me
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Using my Weatherby 30/06 6 Lug. I got the following.
RL26 using 165gr TBBC 3027 FPS
Norma MRP 165gr Ballistic tip. 3010 FPS
RL16 using 165gr Accubonds 2987 FPS
RL17 using Barnes TTSX 2914 FPS Norma MRP was most accurate, followed by RL16, RL17 load could have been a little hotter. AS usual RL26 gave top speed.
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4064, 4895, and Varget for me. Not going for the Nth Degree of performance/efficiency, just accuracy, and these powders deliver it. Besides, whatever .30-06 ammo on my shelf has to be compatible with the Garands if I get a wild hair and feel like shooting it. Dave Emary has posted that the original Hornady M1 Garand match load was 46.5 grains of Varget under a 168 grain Amax. A friend of mine was getting started with a Ruger American in 30-06 and bought several factory loads to try out. I put together a box of the Emary load for him using the Hornady BTHP instead of the Amax. Did my usual procedures for low runout. After the range trip my friend told me that was the best grouping ammo he'd ever shot. Coincidentally that's the load of Varget I use with 168 Sierra Matchkings and 165 BTHP's.
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Some where between 56.5-57.0 grain IMR 4350, about any lr primer, any 165grain bullet. Done. Go forth and kill stuff. Easiest combo out there.
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Look at the top of this sub-forum, second thread down.
HORDES of loads in that sticky-thread, very easy to forget it's there, done it myself.
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Agree with DaddyRat IMR 4350 produced the best accuracy for me along with DRT killing power on whitetails. It is my go to load for deer hunting with the .30-06.
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Some where between 56.5-57.0 grain IMR 4350, about any lr primer, any 165grain bullet. Done. Go forth and kill stuff. Easiest combo out there. Got that right.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The 30 06 is boring... deadly boring... 57gr H4350 and the original 165 X bullet killed lots of elk, same with the TSX, HNDY interlock shoots same poi for deer.
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Ahh, but another factor to consider in choosing between the slow burning powder and the medium burning ones is that with 10 grains less powder per charge, every four or five cartridges you load in effect you get a free one. A not inconsequential matter in this day and age. More bangs for the buck.
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I am shooting 58.0 grs of H4350, Lapua brass and Fed primers. Getting 2850 fps with a 22" barrel and Barnes 168 TTSX. Rifle is a mid 70's 700 BDL that I bought new. Hitting steel plates out to 550 yards. All original except that I free floated the barrel, bedded the lug and swapped triggers.
Check the sticky above for many `06 loads.
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I am shooting 58.0 grs of H4350, Lapua brass and Fed primers. Getting 2850 fps with a 22" barrel and Barnes 168 TTSX. Rifle is a mid 70's 700 BDL that I bought new. Hitting steel plates out to 550 yards. All original except that I free floated the barrel, bedded the lug and swapped triggers.
Check the sticky above for many `06 loads. How big? Sorry, had to ask.
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8” plates. Should have added that.
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I'd like to get a few of the guys from my deer camp out to the range. It might be thought provoking for them to go to work on an 8" plate at only 300 yards.
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Win 760 and H 414 are the same thing. When I was doing a lot of shooting I wanted a powder that worked well thru a measure. Those being ball powders they worked fine. They also seemed to Mirror IMR 4350 in performance. In fact I would say they are the ball version. I found before H 450 was discontinued it duplicated H 4831. Hasbeen
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I'd like to get a few of the guys from my deer camp out to the range. It might be thought provoking for them to go to work on an 8" plate at only 300 yards. When I joined the range where I shoot, I was quite content at 300 but that lasted a few weeks. The 1000 yard section is nearing completion and I can’t wait to jump into that. Shooting at distance has become an eye opener on many levels.
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Some where between 56.5-57.0 grain IMR 4350, about any lr primer, any 165grain bullet. Done. Go forth and kill stuff. Easiest combo out there. I also agree with this but would consider up to 58.0gr on the high end.
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I like the temp stability of H4350 for 165s in the 30.06. My load is 58.0gr and a 165gr Accubond. Vel= 2860fps.
My favorite is RL-16….57.5gr w/ 165gr Accubonds. Vel= 2950 fps(24” barrel)
Both loads shoot 3 shots well under an inch at 100 yds.
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