Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire I think its troublesome that some think you need to be 18 to buy or own a firearm

The constitution doesn't give age as a limiting factor....but it does give shall not be infringed as one.

If you can choose to be a transvestite at 12, enlist at 18 and need to be 21 to exercise your rights....you've done read it wrong.

No.

Fugg no.

I think the idea that a 17 year old girl can't purchase the means to defend herself is not only absurd, but criminal.

Name the problems that would solve you stupid fugk.

This is the problem. Or at least one of them.

23 year old just shot up a work place in Maryland, Maryland has gun laws, MAKE MORE LAWS, Raise the Age,
Don't address the issues,

There we go again waving that pesky document around.

If 21 to buy a firearm, and alcohol, then 21 to enlist, sign a contract, smoke, and VOTE Except they want to lower the voting age to 16.......

I agree, David. I also think its troubling that some on the fire are wolves in sheeps clothing regarding being Patriots and coming up with anti Trump narratives.

As Q said, infiltration rather than invasion.

The militia of most states is defined as the able bodied men between the ages of 18-45. People forget you could not vote across the board for local State and Federal elections until the age of 21 prior to the 26th Amendment which was ratified by enough State legislatures July 1, 1971. But, age of conscript was 18 and Eisenhower pushed to lower the age to vote via Amendment in 1954 due to that fact but the States would have none of it.

If the culls want to change the age to purchase and carry a firearm to 21, (which by the 10th Amendment should be a State thing only) then they should do it by Constitutional Amendment, along with rescinding the age to vote to 21, get married without parental consent, enter contracts and drive. Only two of those things are Rights however, the rest are privileges and not protected by the Constitutions, but Big Brother wants to rule.

If the Right to arms can be set aside by congressional vote, then no right is sacrosanct and the Republic is indeed dead.

Treating 18-21 year olds who should be adults by then like children is another big problem.

Concur 100%

Is there a statistic out for how many 16 year old girls commit mass murder on a regular basis?

+1

Yeah, I'm betting that's a flatliner without a bubble to be seen anywhere, now matter what timeline you dream up.

In the late 50's early 60's I used to ride the school bus to school with my n870 to hunt pheasants with after school. During the school day the shotgun and ammo was in my locker NOT LOCKED. Try that today.

Well said.

Lies and propaganda work, be it gun law, school shootings or about presidents and elections and thousands more.

You can always fool some of the people all of the time

I believe the Constitution is the supreme law of the land and means exactly what it says. The Bill of Rights enumerates certain God given rights which government cannot violate. Any law or regulation that violates the Constitution is unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable. The Second Ammendment says "shall not be infringed" therefore no government at any level can constitutionally restrict private ownership of firearms in any way.
From a realistic standpoint I can see where placing an age limit on the purchase or possession of firearms is reasonable but the Constitution forbids infringement, which that would be, therefore it is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court just issued a decision that federal officers cannot be sued for violating constitutional rights. I don't fully understand that decision and have to think there is more to it than is being reported, especially since Justice Thomas wrote the majority opinion. From what I have read, it seems like a bad decision and I would have to agree with the minority opinion.
Given the opportunity there are constitutional issues I would like to discuss in a reasonable manner without it becoming emotional. For instance does the Constitution only protect citizens or anyone in the United States? If you are here illegally are you protected under the constitution? What about birthright citizenship? What about age limits to vote? Is voting a right of being in the United States or a privilege of citizenship? How are three letter agencies allowed to make rules and regulations having force of law and bypassing Congress? There are others but you get the idea.

It’s bull schit. You’re either an adult or not.