The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Today, a typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.
It should concern you that all those toxic components come from mining. For instance, to manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth’s crust for just one battery.
This makes it very hard to justify. Lot of destruction of the earth there. Where do all these compounds come from?
The solar panels and wind generators require more destruction of the earth. This is not enviormently friendly at all. Of course, nothing we take from the earth is.
NERC’s 2022 Summer Reliability Assessment (SRA) identifies, assesses, and reports on areas of concern regarding the reliability of the North American BPS for the upcoming summer season. In addition, the SRA presents peak electricity demand and supply changes as well as highlights any unique regional challenges or expected conditions that might impact the BPS. The reliability assessment process is a coordinated reliability evaluation between the NERC Reliability Assessment Subcommittee, the Regional Entities, and NERC staff with demand and resource projections obtained from the assessment areas. This report reflects NERC and the ERO Enterprise’s independent assessment and is intended to inform industry leaders, planners, operators, and regulatory bodies so that they are better prepared to take necessary actions to ensure BPS reliability. This report also provides an opportunity for the industry to discuss plans and preparations to ensure reliability for the upcoming summer period.
What is someone built a small trailer with a second battery in it?
Million dollar idea....
How much extra energy does it take to pull the trailer hauling the battery? Probably need 2 batteries .. wait, more weight, probably need a 3rd. There's a reason we can't reach lightspeed ... need more fuel which means more weight which means more fuel which means more weight. Batteries are no different.
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
On the long trip on the hot day, you have to stop every 2 hours for a 34 minute charge.
That alone makes it impractical for most drivers. I can't even make it to the beach or mountains on a single charge. I'm not anti-electric by any means but until they work on thebattery range and power grid to support mass use they are just not a viable means of transportation for most other than suburban dwellers
This makes it very hard to justify. Lot of destruction of the earth there. Where do all these compounds come from?
The solar panels and wind generators require more destruction of the earth. This is not enviormently friendly at all. Of course, nothing we take from the earth is.
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This makes it very hard to justify. Lot of destruction of the earth there. Where do all these compounds come from?
The solar panels and wind generators require more destruction of the earth. This is not enviormently friendly at all. Of course, nothing we take from the earth is.
A couple members mentioned the electric vehicles being on fire.
Firemen have a bad time with electric vehicles. First, there are high voltage wires running thru the vehicle, that in the event of an extrication, the firemen do not want to cut, at the risk of electrocution of themselves or the victims. Second, the batteries are extremely hard to cool to the point where they will not restart the fire. The batteries are usually housed in a sealed compartment in the floor of the car body, so getting water on them is difficult. It's not uncommon for an electric car fire to require 30,000 - 40,000 gal. of water to put it out. No rural fire company that I know of has that kind of water available. I wont get into the math of figuring water to put out a house fire, and all fires are different, but it's taught that somewhere around 6000 gallons of water, if used efficiently and at an appropriate GPM, will put out a 2000 sq ft single story house fire. So it take 5 or 6 times the water to put out an electric car fire.
I know our procedure for an electric car fire is to let it burn and keep the fire contained to the immediate area. It will go out, after while.
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DGAS what others drive, my effort is invested in us.
Got a buddy has a 4 wheel F350 429 bored and stroked to 480 something. 9.5/1 fed by a Roots at around 10#. Built to an 1100hp spec.
Requires racing fuel, a solid 4-5mpg. Can smoke all 4 36's.
He runs it on the street, very little. Awesome machinery, he likes it. Great.
If money wasn't an object and we could buy task specific cars, I'd buy a Tesla Cool machine, would love the first hand experience with one. Both commute under 20 miles round trip, the "big cities" we consider a trip are all 35 miles. Not counting vacation, we take 3-4 trips/year that hit 125ish miles one way.
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