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I have to agree that the Obergefell decision had very little basis in the constitution. I believe Justice Kennedy cited a right to dignity, which is clearly not in the constitution, as one of the main reasons for his opinion.
If the states or the federal government want to pass a gay marriage law so be it, but it's not a constitutional right.
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Accepting the abnormal has become normal And that is precisely the problem.
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The next judicial fiction that needs to fall is that the Constitution guarantees a right of same sex marriage. That notion is as fictitious as the the right to have an abortion. How about inter-racial marriage? How do you see the current court lining up on that one?
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Marriage is a religious thing. The government has no business being involved in a religious matter.
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The next judicial fiction that needs to fall is that the Constitution guarantees a right of same sex marriage. That notion is as fictitious as the the right to have an abortion. How about inter-racial marriage? How do you see the current court lining up on that one? Your a moron.. Clarence Thomas is a black man, you watch too much BS liberal media and then come here and try to be relevant. We were founded upon Christian values in this country, not emotion and fads. But the question was about GHEY marriage. Try to stay on topic loser.
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Every time conservatives have a chance of turning things around we wind up right back here, pushing stupid fugking social agendas based on religious belief.
The one reason Trump was successful, he didn’t waste time on this BS, and went after foreign policy, trade, the economy, etc…
Quit worrying about queers and start concentrating on the economy.
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Marriage is a religious thing. The government has no business being involved in a religious matter. It should be, but since .gov had to involve marriage in taxes…. Get them out of the marriage game entirely and let folks do what their religions will allow.
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Correct. There's been LOTS of legislating from the Bench. I frankly don't GAFF what gays do. Furthermore, I don't really care about abortion either. (Just look at who is more likely to get an abortion..) What I DO care about is the U.S. Constitution. If rights are not stated specifically in that document, then it doesn't fall under a constitutional issue. Therefore it's not a federal jurisdiction issue either. It's a state's issue. Precisely where I am.
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The next judicial fiction that needs to fall is that the Constitution guarantees a right of same sex marriage. That notion is as fictitious as the the right to have an abortion. How about inter-racial marriage? How do you see the current court lining up on that one? LOL. Google a picture of Thomas's wife.
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The constitution doesn't have anything to do with marriage of any kind. That's the bible and the IRS.
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Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, a part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. It expresses the principle of federalism, also known as states' rights, by stating that the federal government has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden to the states by the Constitution are reserved to each state. Including, perhaps, the right to secede?
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The next judicial fiction that needs to fall is that the Constitution guarantees a right of same sex marriage. That notion is as fictitious as the the right to have an abortion. These immoral acts don't occur in a vacuum.In part,it's due to some citizens apathy to immorality that allows these illegal judicial actions to remain in place IE homosexual marriage. John Adams stated, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Clarence Thomas is on the case,he recently stated "in future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell."
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Have to add, every time the word “gay” is used to describe homosexuality the user has given in to the sodomites. Part of the game is changing the meaning of words in our language. ie make up word changes to glorify that which has always been denigrated. Turn sodomy into a more acceptable occurrence by calling it a nice, warm, attractive word like “gay” or “alternative lifestyle”. Remind those to whom you speak that homosexual men are homosexual. If we decide using slang terms is acceptable we then must allow negative connotations as well as positive. That is, your gay guys are now fraggits, mud pumpers, etc. Call them what they are. Homosexual.
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The next judicial fiction that needs to fall is that the Constitution guarantees a right of same sex marriage. That notion is as fictitious as the the right to have an abortion. "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."There is no right of straight people to marry either.
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The next judicial fiction that needs to fall is that the Constitution guarantees a right of same sex marriage. That notion is as fictitious as the the right to have an abortion. How about inter-racial marriage? How do you see the current court lining up on that one? Interracial marriage will never come us as a case for SCOTUS because almost everyone accepts it. And to put a finer point on it, Justice Thomas in in an interracial marriage.
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The Constitutional right of "gays" to be left alive is fictitious.
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The next judicial fiction that needs to fall is that the Constitution guarantees a right of same sex marriage. That notion is as fictitious as the the right to have an abortion. How about inter-racial marriage? How do you see the current court lining up on that one? Inter-racial marriage is consistent with the historic definition of marriage, which is a union of a man and a woman in matrimony. Therefore it falls under the 9th Amendment guarantee.
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Correct. There's been LOTS of legislating from the Bench. I frankly don't GAFF what gays do. Furthermore, I don't really care about abortion either. (Just look at who is more likely to get an abortion..) What I DO care about is the U.S. Constitution. If rights are not stated specifically in that document, then it doesn't fall under a constitutional issue. Therefore it's not a federal jurisdiction issue either. It's a state's issue. That's the smartest post you've made in a long time.
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Marriage is a religious thing. The government has no business being involved in a religious matter. The legal tradition of marriage being both a religious and civil arrangement goes back to before the founding of our nation. Many times there's been no religious element to it at all, such as marriages performed by sea captains and the like.
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