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There isn’t a state in the union that is a problem. The problem lies in the larger cities almost exclusively. I don’t know what to do about them, but states seceding wouldn’t help a damn thing.
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I’m all for it. California, Oregon, and Washington, are too far gone to be salvaged. Western Or and WesternWa. Idaho will be glad to annex anything East of the Cascades. We might even be persauded to accept a bit ofNorthern Cali. Perhaps in exchange for Ada County?
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I hope and pray they secede, and we cut them off.Completely. Then you want no access to the Pacific Ocean or the major food producing regions? This pipe dream has terrible consequences, even worse than leaving them alone as part of the country as a whole. Keep the lands; eliminate the communists. There would be revenue in it for them to grant us access to their ports, and they would readily sell their produce to the rest of the country. They would need every feasible revenue stream, due to the massive amount of dead beats on their payroll. We would be just fine.
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It’s not ever going to happen! This country is not going to lose the entire west coast. Cut off Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and Los Angeles and they will crumble. Anything west of the Sierras and the Cascades. Starve the liberals out. Cut off there water supplies.
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So if the left coast wants to seceede as they have discussed, what would be the response fron the government? They came after the Confederacy ... Not quite. CA became a state in 1850 and Oregon became a state in 1859. Just sayin...
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Balkanization is coming.
Only question is before or after the war. I’ve been hoping and advocating for Balkanization for several years. What the heck is taking so long? Heinlien predicted such in his fiction wtitten in the '50s and '60s.
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I think we should just take it over like the 3rd world [bleep] hole it has become. With the right leadership it could become the productive state it once was......and maybe lock up the Soros puppets for what they've done.
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So if the left coast wants to seceede as they have discussed, what would be the response fron the government? They came after the Confederacy and the under the BS guise of slavery, even though several northern states were slave states. In fact it was about money being cut off from the US Goverment as far as taxes being taken away from the agricultural might of the south not going to Washington. Would we sit by and let this happen, or would the US Gubment shut it down. My opinion is I doubt it, but what say you. Take a look at election results by county. Unlike our last revolution, those states are not homogeneous in their beliefs. State leadership will find very quickly that outside the urban areas, especially in the case of WA and OR (OK, perhaps except Bend and Spokane), that they will happily join Idaho and much of eastern CA will simply join NV. So, those states will deal with an internal revolution before they ever break away from the US. You are right. Eastern Oregon, Washington, and a lot of northern and eastern California would stay with Idaho and Nevada. The few leftists in those counties and Las Vegas would flee to the coast. It would be wonderful if Texas and Louisiana would secede and take the heart of the country all the way to the Canadian border with them. Imagine the refugee crisis as our parasites and riff raff fled to the east and west coasts.
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So if the left coast wants to seceede as they have discussed, what would be the response fron the government? They came after the Confederacy and the under the BS guise of slavery, even though several northern states were slave states. In fact it was about money being cut off from the US Goverment as far as taxes being taken away from the agricultural might of the south not going to Washington. Would we sit by and let this happen, or would the US Gubment shut it down. My opinion is I doubt it, but what say you. Take a look at election results by county. Unlike our last revolution, those states are not homogeneous in their beliefs. State leadership will find very quickly that outside the urban areas, especially in the case of WA and OR (OK, perhaps except Bend and Spokane), that they will happily join Idaho and much of eastern CA will simply join NV. So, those states will deal with an internal revolution before they ever break away from the US. Eastern CA doesn't want to join NV now. Because of Las Vegas we're FUBAR. CA and New Yalk are responsible.
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Thirstyotsix: As long as they kiss my ass on their way out - that would be just fine and dandy with me.
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If CA, OR, & WA were to successfully secede, I believe TX would too. If CA, OR, and WA seceded, Texas wouldn’t need to!😂😂 John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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You guys are watching way too much redneck political news... California may be doomed, but their economy is so huge there is no way they would give up their biggest markets- the rest of the US. In the case of Washington and Oregon, outside the major political and population centers both states are actually very conservative and there would be a civil war before the population would agree to secession. Just because a few radical right wing activists say something is going to happen doesn't mean this idea is taken seriously by the rest of us... it's laughable to watch you guys discussing it like it is a real possibility...
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If anybody in their wildest dreams, think that a secession of the left coast is even remotely possible, I suggest mental health counseling. California alone, is still the 5th largest economy in the world GDP. It would fall between Germany #4 and push the UK to #6. Portland and Port Kalama OR export over 17 million metric tons of food grains annually. Seattle and Tacoma export 16 million tons. You think the cash cow clowns in DC are going to sit on their asses and let that slip away? Not to mention losing 6 staunch Democrat Senators and God knows how many Dem Representatives in the House. Let's find something more cogent to speculate about...perhaps the viability of an all electric ranch pickup, or a tax rollback.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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West Coast Refineries are critical for national security. We have to deal with the creeps until that is gone. We could get much of our produce from Mexico. A train line to Alaska to midwest would take care of the ports which are a mess anyways. Alaska could have big ports at Seward, Anchorage, and Dutch Harbor and skip West Coast if there was a rail system to L48.
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Why does everyone assume that when balkanization occurs, the new boundaries will be on the old state lines?
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Divided we fall.
As bad as it is we don’t need to make it worse and there’s far too many good people in all 3 states. Like so many other places in the USA they’re just out voted by the big cities.
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West Coast Refineries are critical for national security. We have to deal with the creeps until that is gone. We could get much of our produce from Mexico. A train line to Alaska to midwest would take care of the ports which are a mess anyways. Alaska could have big ports at Seward, Anchorage, and Dutch Harbor and skip West Coast if there was a rail system to L48. There's this unfriendly socialist country in between AK and CONUS, they don't even like old boomers in pickups going through, let alone a railroad right of way.
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I live on the west coast. I here no talk of this. Exceopt the fools talking greater idaho. I'm thinking your information is coming from city dwellers, and conspiracy dips. Bunch of BS.. Check this out just a quick google search. https://www.oregonlive.com/politics...west-coast-among-democrats-poll-finds.ht
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Let ‘em go and don’t even think about fighting them over having done it.
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