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Originally Posted by Squidge
The 9th amendment, which precedes the 10th, specifically addresses "other" rights not enumerated in Constitution. The decision written by Alito completely ignored the 9th Amendment as though it did not exist. The clear plain language of the ninth amendment states that there are "other" rights not listed in the Constitution, and those rights are "retained by the people."

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."


e·nu·mer·a·tion noun the action of mentioning a number of things one by one.

Alito's Abortion Ruling Overturning Roe Is an Insult to the 9th Amendment

If it was a retained right, why did virtually all of the original colonies ban abortions?


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'...To secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves AND our posterity...'


Tell me again how the 'yet-to-be-born' are not protected?????


"...A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box..." Frederick Douglass, 1867

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Originally Posted by Squidge
Rights "retained by the people" are written into the Constitution before "States rights".

Only an idiot would believe that "states rights" supersede rights that are "retained by the people". I'll put you down as a fan of BIG government at the State level.

If the right to abort was "retained by the people" why, at the time of the Founding, did virtually every state make abortion after quickening a crime?? Alito's opinion destroys your argument with actual facts. Secondly, as stated above, the purpose of the Constitution is to "secure the blessing of liberty?'. That "liberty" which is a "blessing" is something God wants you to have; something He thinks is good for you. The supposed "right" to kill innocent beings, with heartbeats and brain waves is murder, which is condemned roundly and universally by Judeo-Christian monotheism. It is the farthest thing from a "liberty" which is a "blessing"----a liberty the Constitution sought to ensure.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by Squidge
Rights "retained by the people" are written into the Constitution before "States rights".

Only an idiot would believe that "states rights" supersede rights that are "retained by the people". I'll put you down as a fan of BIG government at the State level.

If the right to abort was "retained by the people" why, at the time of the Founding, did virtually every state make abortion after quickening a crime?? Alito's opinion destroys your argument with actual facts. Secondly, as stated above, the purpose of the Constitution is to "secure the blessing of liberty?'. That "liberty" which is a "blessing" is something God wants you to have; something He thinks is good for you. The supposed "right" to kill innocent beings, with heartbeats and brain waves is murder, which is condemned roundly and universally by Judeo-Christian monotheism. It is the farthest thing from a "liberty" which is a "blessing"----a liberty the Constitution sought to ensure.

You get criticized (rightly 😁) here for being a never-Trumper but I commend your answer above. 👍. Well put.


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Well yeah, but there’s nothing in the constitution that prohibited states leaving the union either. You see how that went.


Well it could be argued otherwise, iffy but

Article IV

Section 3

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

I see no argument there. Your quote is meaningless with regard to states leaving the union.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by Squidge
Rights "retained by the people" are written into the Constitution before "States rights".

Only an idiot would believe that "states rights" supersede rights that are "retained by the people". I'll put you down as a fan of BIG government at the State level.

If the right to abort was "retained by the people" why, at the time of the Founding, did virtually every state make abortion after quickening a crime?? Alito's opinion destroys your argument with actual facts. Secondly, as stated above, the purpose of the Constitution is to "secure the blessing of liberty?'. That "liberty" which is a "blessing" is something God wants you to have; something He thinks is good for you. The supposed "right" to kill innocent beings, with heartbeats and brain waves is murder, which is condemned roundly and universally by Judeo-Christian monotheism. It is the farthest thing from a "liberty" which is a "blessing"----a liberty the Constitution sought to ensure.

You get criticized (rightly 😁) here for being a never-Trumper but I commend your answer above. 👍. Well put.


I'm not a never-Trumper, though I'm a critic of the things he did which helped him lose. I just didn't vote in a state where my vote was irrelevant.

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