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While this certainly ain’t no .45, it does show the kind of resolution which can be expected from a 3 MOA red dot at 50 yards. At that distance, the red dot appears to fit within the bull of the NRA B-16 target, leaving a halo of black, consisting of the 7 ring, surrounding the red dot and making for a very consistent hold. For precision shooting, a 3 MOA dot does seem just about right - not too big and not too small.
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I am putting together a 45 LC on a Stainless Blackhawk. Was considering a 3 MOA reflex sight.
Comments, recommendations, thoughts? I think a Blackhawk chambered in 45LC with a reflex sight would be the bees knees for shooting schit out to 100yds.Why do you consider a 3MOA size dot? What your budget? It is a pretty good setup. This is .45 Colt Cowboy Special ammo, using 200 grain LSWCs at 925 FPS. 5 shot groups at 25 yards. Mackay define this set up/mount. I am looking to put on my 4 5/8” Flattop SS 44 spl
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I have a 3 MOA Venom on my Buckmark that is perfect for small game. 6 MOA is way to big for hunting IMHO.
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I have a 3 MOA FF III on my 686. Love it, has given me a new lease on life as shooting handguns with open sights is extremely difficult for my eyes anymore. I have shot paint spots on rocks out to 100yards with impressive results. Highly recommended. Looks a little weird on a revolver until you get used to it, but oh well - it works.
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I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I have a 3 MOA FF III on my 686. Love it, has given me a new lease on life as shooting handguns with open sights is extremely difficult for my eyes anymore. I have shot paint spots on rocks out to 100yards with impressive results. Highly recommended. Looks a little weird on a revolver until you get used to it, but oh well - it works. What I've found also - I really struggle with open sights and 61 yr old eyes. Optics have made all the difference in the world for me - I currently have 2 RMR's, 3 Holosuns and 1 Fastfire, all with 3 - 3.25 MOA dots. I don't think I'd want bigger dots, but then haven't tried them...
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I am putting together a 45 LC on a Stainless Blackhawk. Was considering a 3 MOA reflex sight.
Comments, recommendations, thoughts? I think a Blackhawk chambered in 45LC with a reflex sight would be the bees knees for shooting schit out to 100yds.Why do you consider a 3MOA size dot? What your budget? It is a pretty good setup. This is .45 Colt Cowboy Special ammo, using 200 grain LSWCs at 925 FPS. 5 shot groups at 25 yards. Mackay define this set up/mount. I am looking to put on my 4 5/8” Flattop SS 44 spl It is a Jack Weigand brand weigatinny mount. The RDO is a Burris Fastfire. It works great for its purpose. If I was buying a new RDO today I would opt for either a Trijicon RMR or Holosun, depending on budget and use. I have an RMR on a carry Glock and it is excellent in all regards.
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I have lost zero on both the china-garbage holosun, and a fastfire 3.
Though accuracy is outstanding, there are some major disadvantages to the cheap reflex sights, which has me going back to tritium open sights:
Running dog teams all winter and breaking trail through thick woods, any sort of dust or debris from cutting brush, will block the open emittor. Never nice pulling out a handgun when charged by a winter moose, only to realize you have no sights.
A dust shield is bulky and stupid. A cheap band aid at best.
The mini aimpoint is a closed system, which is a superior design in harsh environments. The emmitor is internal, protected by lenses on both ends of the red dot.
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Got a quick chance to sling lead before getting ready for work today. Springfield XDS mod2 osp 9mm, Holosun HE507K-GR-X2 Compact, from a Desantis 019 E1 mini scabbard holster, 7 yards, 7.97 seconds. Not my best, but loving the Holosun sight so far! Especially the “shake awake” feature.
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I have a 3 MOA FF III on my 686. Love it, has given me a new lease on life as shooting handguns with open sights is extremely difficult for my eyes anymore. I have shot paint spots on rocks out to 100yards with impressive results. Highly recommended. Looks a little weird on a revolver until you get used to it, but oh well - it works. Centershot, Who makes the mount on your 686? Thank you
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Got it from https://allchingunparts.com/products/smith-wesson-mini-sts-scope-mount.html A little spendy but a nice mount that seats firmly and stays put. Just moved it over to my new 686 Plus 7" 357 Mag. Continually amazed by the accuracy of a handgun with a good red dot sight.
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Thanks CS.
It was toss up of which mount to use because I already had a Weigand mini on a GP100 with a Holosun 507k.
I chose to go with the Allchin for my S&W Model 69 and Holosun 507c primarily because it offered the lowest mounting option.
However, just yesterday, I had a chance to shoot the M69 combo and unfortunately the RDO would not zero at 25 yards. It shot way high and the RDO ran out of down adjustment.
I do not have a problem with the GP100/Weigand/507k combo. The GP100/Weigand did require the use of picatinny rail mount adapter thus the RDO sits higher.
I don't know where to go next solve my problem. Perhaps there is a adjustment difference between the two RDO's? Or perhaps the picatinny rail mount used on the GP100?
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I just picked up another Ultra Dot Matchdot II , 30mm tube with 1,2,4,6,8 MOA dot adjustment. They are in the $250-$300 range at Midway. I have one of the UltraDot Gen 2 that is only 2 MOA dot on my Ruger Blackhawk Hunter in 45LC. It is great out to 100 yds and farther if you shoot it some. I have it off of the pistol right now getting another Weigand mount for it. I have Holosun's on my Glock 20 ,10mm and my Glock 43 , 9mm. Love them. At 69 I have to use them for precision shooting and use the little stickers that go on my shooting glasses with the hole in them. Good luck. Mike
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