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That's the operative word (or anagram): AFAIK.

And again, I say that how the glass is shaped, polished, coated, etc is more important. Also critical are the optical design and the assembly of the riflescope. The exact provenance of glass is a closely guarded secret, veiled in secrecy on purpose.

That’s true. You can have reliability AND good glass, Just don’t assume that high end expensive glass also automatically means reliable too. Swaro Z series is a perfect example. And when forced to accept a trade off, choose reliability. Again, I’m talking about your average big game hunter. Not a specialized target application.

S&B states it uses Schott glass. What kind do you think Zeiss uses? It’s not a secret and can be found out.

Acronym; if we are into busting balls.

It really is all a question of "suitability" or using what is proper for your purpose.

My point was that it's not all cut and dried; there are people who need far superior rifle optics for specific shooting purposes and the manufacturers have stepped up to meet that need and as such should not be maligned. Glass type does make a difference in certain situations, and a great example is the mirage taming properties of ED glass, and especially Super ED and pure fluorite crystal glass.

If you look through a riflescope in excellent conditions and for shorter distances, you are totally correct that one would be hard pressed to find much of a difference between "good enough" and "top of the line". Certtainly not one justifying multi kilobucks in the price.

But when the going gets tough and the distances increase and the criticality of the picture is extreme, that's when the $ difference comes into focus (if I can be excused for the play on words.)

Thank you for the correction.

Be careful what you say, there are people that have extensive experience with equipment you know nothing of...

You were wrong in your first post, which I bolded (those were your words, not mine), and you're even more wrong with your 2nd effort. Congrats.

Nice line up Shrap! 😊

See any Z5’s ?

You apparently got the good ones. I bought four z5 5-25X52 and fooled with a friend's z6 5-30X50. I would not buy another z5 5-25X52 or buy a z6 5-30X50 because of my experience.

I don’t like calling others out, but you did that to me, and made a completely misinformed statement.

It may not have happened yet, but one day you will likely need to take your own advice. I used to be you. Had stacks of Swarovski scope boxes also. Had them on most all my favorite rifles. I used to think they were the greatest hunting scope on earth. And they are, until they aren’t, which happens if you actually use them and dial them and hunt hard with them. They definitely seem great, on paper and to the eye. No one does it lighter, clearer, with a better eyebox and FOV. And then I started actually using them. And a sheared turret revealed the cheesy plastic internals. Then they all got sold. The things a riflescope needs to do above all else, track accurately, hold and return to zero, and stand up to field use, they just do not do well. They can’t due to their design (plastic turrets and paper thin tube walls) and once I understood that, I moved on. But you should enjoy that great glass!

I’m sure this will surprise some and others not so much. Anyway it’s a good review of a few top so called alpha scopes optically.



https://www.kineticsecuritysolutions.com/pages/optics-comparison

You may shoot more at targets than I do, but there is no way in the world you would shoot more varmints. Those rifles get taken out to the field and shot extensively. You do have to dial the scope as you shoot different ranges, and they continue to work.

I gave examples with real world experience, not hyperbole. Don’t tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about…

Like you did to me? Once again, might want to consider taking your own advice.

Good luck with your great glass!

real world experience isn't always babied rifles in padded hard cases going to the 'field'.....

An interesting study. I’d like to see what happens in low light.
Most big game is crepuscular.

I thought most were ungulates.....

Then again, lots of huge bucks are killed at midday.