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My 725SA ain't so bad, either. I’ve got on in a 280. Very good shooting rifle.
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Now, If RemArms would just fix that darned bolt handle that just seems to fall off at the randomest of moments. (◔_◔)
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The 2 that I've seen have been much better, or at least looked and felt like it, that what Rem has been putting out for the last 10 years.
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If the bolt does not lock down when the safety is engaged, the Alpha 1 will be nothing more than an another expensive box-stand “hunting” rifle.
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Why would anyone buy a product from a company that has been in bankruptcy TWICE. They will have to build a rifle that will compete with a half dozen other companies in every respect and for less money. To me that means BANKRUPTCY 3 TIMES. Sigh..... Remington went bankrupt because their two previous owners borrowed over a billion dollars against Remington, pocketed the money and gave Remington the debt. Little of it was invested back into Remington. It had nothing to do with Remington's firearms or sales. The fact that Remington labored almost a decade with that debt is a testament to how well their business was doing. BINGO!
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1.Bolt handle still brazed on? check 2.Same fail on fire trigger/safety?: check 3.Safety (fail on fire) does not lock bolt? check 4. Extractor sill the same, sheet metal? check
5. PASS
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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1.Bolt handle still brazed on? check 2.Same fail on fire trigger/safety?: check 3.Safety (fail on fire) does not lock bolt? check 4. Extractor sill the same, sheet metal? check
5. PASS Mic drop!😊👍
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If the bolt does not lock down when the safety is engaged, the Alpha 1 will be nothing more than an another expensive box-stand “hunting” rifle. I alter the safeties on the old 700's, 721's, & 722's so the safety doesn't lock down the bolt. I do this because I like the safety on and having the bolt operatational. Exception, I have a couple first & second year 700's that I've not changed as they are usually just in a safe.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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Why would anyone buy a product from a company that has been in bankruptcy TWICE. They will have to build a rifle that will compete with a half dozen other companies in every respect and for less money. To me that means BANKRUPTCY 3 TIMES. They went bankrupt due to liberal attorney general and states attorneys.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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Why would anyone buy a 700 when Tikkas are so far superior in every way ? I have a couple Tikkas they are inferior in every way to early 700's!
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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Why would anyone buy a 700 when Tikkas are so far superior in every way ? I have a couple Tikkas they are inferior in every way to early 700's! If the Remington 700 of any year is well made and to specs it is far superior to a Tikka. Not even a fair comparison.
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Why would anyone buy a 700 when Tikkas are so far superior in every way ? I have a couple Tikkas they are inferior in every way to early 700's! If the Remington 700 of any year is well made and to specs it is far superior to a Tikka. Not even a fair comparison. Very true 👍.....Unless your just a rabid Tikka fanboy this is obvious...Hb
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Why would anyone buy a 700 when Tikkas are so far superior in every way ? I have a couple Tikkas they are inferior in every way to early 700's! If the Remington 700 of any year is well made and to specs it is far superior to a Tikka. Not even a fair comparison. Very true 👍.....Unless your just a rabid Tikka fanboy this is obvious...Hb I have had my share of bad Remingtons and never a bad Tikka but if done right the 700 offers more customization then the Tikka can ever dream of. The fact that no custom action is a copied version of the Tikka action is all one needs to know.
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I have had dozens of Remington 700's and over a dozen Tikka's, I did have one Tikka dud but I can only remember one Model 700 that Would not shoot out of the 40 or so Remington 700 rifles I have owned over the last 35 years......Hb
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I have had dozens of Remington 700's and over a dozen Tikka's, I did have one Tikka dud but I can only remember one Model 700 that Would not shoot out of the 40 or so Remington 700 rifles I have owned over the last 35 years......Hb That has been my experience with 700's as well.
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For the guys who say the 700 is superior to a Tikka, what are you basing that on? Besides the fact that one has spawned many more copycat custom actions, which I am not all that sure is because it's better at all. But either way, if someone doesn't want or need to customize a rifle, or build a custom, kind of not applicable. I'll give the 700 receiver the fact that its cylindrical and easy to machine on? lol.
Just curious. I have no dog in this fight and like both rifles. Just simply wouldn't know what makes a 700 better in any way. I'm no Tikka fanboy, and it is not obvious. I've greatly enjoyed older Remingtons like the 700 Classic in 6.5x55 but I am not sure about "better" vs "just as good". Would appreciate some objective reasoning.
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My 2008 700 in 308 is a mirror image of my 77 model 700 in 308. They both shoot very well also. My memory of 70s 700s is much different than a 2008. Slimmer/trimmer, safety locking the bolt, don't think they had recoil pads in the 70s. Just a plate.
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In fairness,Teeker is the only outfit to offer a 223 upon an '06 receiver. Hint. My newest 700 seems fine. Hint. Just sayin'...............
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The one size fits all action for the Tikka is a minus. There not a budget rifle anymore. The other being that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I hate ugly guns. Unless it’s strictly for utility or a cheap truck gun who wants to hunt with a fuggly rifle even if it works? Savage’s and Tikka’s IMO are ugly as sin.
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1.Bolt handle still brazed on? check The bolt head is brazed on, too. Lot of people don't realize that. But most DIY-home gunsmiths don't work on that end of the bolt. They try to tacticalize their bolt handle by cutting on it or heating it up without using heat sinks and heat paste and damage the brazing, then when it breaks off they say "look, my handle came off, damn that Remington." No doubt a few have come off due to a bad brazing. But most of the ones I've seen that failed were worked on by someone who didn't know what they were doing.
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