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Which of these two bullets would work best on elk,deer, bear. I’ve heard the 168 is the best all around due to being able to run speeds up. Will be using in my 06 and 300 win mag
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I'd be buying the 168TTSX for that.
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I haven't used them, but the 168 is supposed to open at lower velocities.
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I'd be buying the 168TTSX for that. That
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I've used a lot of 180gr TSX that worked to perfection in both my 300 Win and 30/06
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I’ve had excellent results on game with the 168 gr TTSX out to 300 yards from a .300 Weatherby. I just haven’t shot at anything farther than that. I’m sure it would work anywhere velocity was sufficient.
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If only those two choices……. the 168 for the 06! Perhaps the 180 for the other. If you wish to stay with one bullet weight……the 168! memtb
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You can kill anything with hooves with the 130 TTSX.
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I am using the 168 in my 30-06 for Elk this season. 58 grs of H4350 is giving me 2850 fps out of a 22” barrel. Supposedly they will expand down to 1500 fps. At 400 yards I am getting almost 2100 fps, which I consider the ballistic max range for expansion that is realistic
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!68 in 30-06 or 308 and 180 in 300 Win Mag or 300 H&H
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Couldn't agree more with UpThePole for my needs. You need two things for proper terminal performance: adequate bullet impact velocity and adequate target impact resistance. Traditional composite bullets (copper + lead, etc.) are much more forgiving in this regard than monolithic bullets. While I don't have the capability to compare hardness and tensile comparisons with Barnes, Nosler, & Hornady, my personal impression is that Barnes TSX & TTSX bullets are the most "stout" and I would never intentionally shoot any game animals at ranges where impact velocities fell below 1800fps. The heavier the animal the better the performance so if the intended is a smaller deer, I would be cautious at ranges where velocities fall below 200fps. On the other hand since the minimum impact velocity for the LRX line is about 200fps less (1600fps), you may find their LRX 175 gives you more flexibility given the bullet weight range you've chosen.
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I use the 168 in my 30-06 and my 300 Win. Mag. My 300 Win. Mag. is mostly a safe queen anymore. I get more done with less these days. I'm a fan of 308 Winchester. it does the same thing with less recoil. (Within reason)
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You can kill anything with hooves with the 130 TTSX.
Perfect 300 Savage and 308 bullet. I agree. It wasn't one of the choices the original poster mentioned, but for 'normal' hunting ranges, it is a wicked SOB in non-magnum 30's.
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That's sort of "6 or a 1/2 dozen, which is better?" But I think I'd go with the 168 and I'd bet it would leave a good exit hole. I like both cartridges. Depending on game, if the expected yardage is long, Or the game was large or both I'd go with the 300 otherwise the 30-06.
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I would try both weights for accuracy in each rifle, and let the rifle show what it likes.
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The 168 gr TTSX via an FN Mauser 30-06 performed flawlessly for me in Namibia in 2017.
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I would try both weights for accuracy in each rifle, and let the rifle show what it likes. This, and I’d take the 168 if all else was equal. More velocity is generally a good thing with mono’s.
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fwiw - Barnes designed the 165 TTSX specifically for the .300 Win Mag and that is what Barnes uses in their factory ammo for .300 Win Mag, not the 168. The 165 has a tangent ogive, which generally is easier to dial in on seating depth than a secant ogive such as used on the 168. I use the 165 in my .300 Win Mag and stuff falls down as dead as they do with the 175, 180, 190, and heavier. Dead is dead. If you want to stretch out a bit, look at the 175 LRX, which fills the spot between the two weights about which you asked. From Barnes webpage, scroll down to FAQ, the third question: https://www.barnesbullets.com/product/tsx/IS THE 168-GRAIN .30-CALIBER TSX THE SAME AS THE 165-GRAIN TSX? IS IT REALLY A MATCH-GRADE HUNTING BULLET? These bullets have different ogive geometries. The 165-grain TSX incorporates a shorter tangent ogive in the nose profile. It’s designed for cartridges with short magazines such as the .300 WSM and .300 Win Mag. The 168-grain TSX BT has a secant ogive which lengthens the nose profile and has shown superb accuracy downrange. It offers the best of both worlds because it’s also a premium hunting bullet offering exceptional terminal performance. It is best suited for cartridges such as the .308 Winchester, .30-06 and .300 Weatherby.
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