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Early 1906 rifle. Is it: 1) Original blue 2) Reblued
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If it seems too good to be true....
it's a reblue.
Lever screw wrong, stocks redone, lever redone.
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Looks reblued to me, but I am nowhere near an expert like most of you guys are. My 1909's bluing has a lot duller look to it than that, even in the best spots.
That wood looks really light, too.
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Here's a good picture I got from the Fest of an early 1899 with high condition original bluing (and A engraving). All 1895's/1899's had this mirror blue when new. Just to help you compare to the picture above.
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That trigger looks really dark
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Without seeing any of the rest of the rifle I'd say reblue. The wood looks to pristine for a rifle that old also, maybe refinished. BUT--Could be a 116 year old safe queen that had excellent care and no other guns to scar it.
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Horizontal buffing marks on the receiver?
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Re-blue, but nicely done. I'll bet, without seeing it in person, that someone took it to a higher level of polish than necessary and rust blued it. (320-400x is plenty fine enough and the industry standard today, but if taken to 600-800x a brighter blue is the result. Technically much harder though - when the surface is too highly polished, the bluing solution initially tends to "bead up" and the resulting finish is blotchy. Many more coatings + persistence is required to make the bluing even out, but the end result can be worth it.) My first thought was someone did a credible job of nitre bluing that receiver but it doesn't compare to the known original in the 2nd pic - unless it's the difference in lighting that's tricking my eye. Not a great pic, sorry, but this is what 400x grit polish looks like under rust blue. As with the other two pics in this thread, lighting has a lot to do with color interpretation.
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Without seeing any of the rest of the rifle I'd say reblue. Horizontal buffing marks on the receiver? Re-blue, but nicely done. This was my opinion. Now, same gun. Thoughts? My reflection Clouds
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high gloss blue receivers or anything high gloss is difficult to photograph. That includes really shiny stocks.
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Truthfully, I'm kind of confused on this. Not sure if somebody maybe just "polished" it up and scratched the original bluing a little bit, or if somebody did a very good reblue.
That first picture is what I bought it based off of, and it's misleading as heck.
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“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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I'd still guess reblued, nicely.
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Truthfully, I'm kind of confused on this. Not sure if somebody maybe just "polished" it up and scratched the original bluing a little bit, or if somebody did a very good reblue.
That first picture is what I bought it based off of, and it's misleading as heck. Re-blue is generally very difficult to tell in photos alone. Though some are more obvious. Only have one mirror blue here and a reflection truly looks crisp like a mirror. The cumulative sum of all features leads one to believe this rifle has been "touched up." To what degree? You'll have to decide that.
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Yep, thinking that this morning. Wasn't sure last night. But I bought it as a refinished rifle so it's good. Bore is near perfect, all numbers match, and never had a 38-55.
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Regardless, it's a handsome rifle which I would be proud to own. I never had a .38-55 either, always thought it would be a delicious cartridge to play with in a hunting rifle. Nice snag.
Seeing the better pics I'll go out on a limb and guess it was nitre blued.
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38-55 with that condition...buy first, worry later. I'm guessing there is someone out there waiting to pay you more than your cost should you decide not to keep it.
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