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[quote=VaHunter]I would say it is priceless because you have the most accurate 9lb - 6oz sporting hunting rifle ever created. There's a lot of newbies that say they have a true sub .25 moa rifle. Let him live out his fantasy dream... It is a 300 Wby and although it shoots really well , it wont do .25 mo. That's ok. His won't either. And its actually depreciating in accuracy because a couple of years ago it would shoot .25 moa at "200" yds. 0.25 MOA is 0.25 MOA, whether at 100 yards, 200 yards, etc.
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[quote=VaHunter]I would say it is priceless because you have the most accurate 9lb - 6oz sporting hunting rifle ever created. There's a lot of newbies that say they have a true sub .25 moa rifle. Let him live out his fantasy dream... It is a 300 Wby and although it shoots really well , it wont do .25 mo. That's ok. His won't either. And its actually depreciating in accuracy because a couple of years ago it would shoot .25 moa at "200" yds. 0.25 MOA is 0.25 MOA, whether at 100 yards, 200 yards, etc. I get that but if you can't shoot quarter inch groups at 100 you sure as hell won't at 200 with the same rifle. This rifle and shooter have never done either and never will.
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Personally, I have taken this rifle on 3 hunts and only have 17 rounds through it ... No one can say it's a 1/4 MOA rifle with a total of 17 rounds through it.
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[quote=VaHunter]I would say it is priceless because you have the most accurate 9lb - 6oz sporting hunting rifle ever created. There's a lot of newbies that say they have a true sub .25 moa rifle. Let him live out his fantasy dream... It is a 300 Wby and although it shoots really well , it wont do .25 mo. That's ok. His won't either. And its actually depreciating in accuracy because a couple of years ago it would shoot .25 moa at "200" yds. 0.25 MOA is 0.25 MOA, whether at 100 yards, 200 yards, etc. I get that but if you can't shoot quarter inch groups at 100 you sure as hell won't at 200 with the same rifle. This rifle and shooter have never done either and never will. Just differentiating between 0.25 inch and 0.25 MOA, is all.
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[quote=VaHunter]I would say it is priceless because you have the most accurate 9lb - 6oz sporting hunting rifle ever created. There's a lot of newbies that say they have a true sub .25 moa rifle. Let him live out his fantasy dream... It is a 300 Wby and although it shoots really well , it wont do .25 mo. That's ok. His won't either. And its actually depreciating in accuracy because a couple of years ago it would shoot .25 moa at "200" yds. 0.25 MOA is 0.25 MOA, whether at 100 yards, 200 yards, etc. I get that but if you can't shoot quarter inch groups at 100 you sure as hell won't at 200 with the same rifle. This rifle and shooter have never done either and never will. .25 MOA is a constant but a 1/4 inch is only .25 MOA at 100 yards….at 200 yards .25 MOA is 1/2 inch…at 400 yards .25 MOA is a 1” group…etc, etc
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So to shoot 1/4 moa at 100 yards you must shoot a .257 or smaller projectile? Regardless, very nice rifle. Huskemaw makes good stuff, weatherby is top notch. A hunting gun is a hunting gun.
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Personally, I have taken this rifle on 3 hunts and only have 17 rounds through it ... No one can say it's a 1/4 MOA rifle with a total of 17 rounds through it. Bingo. Why even mess with the idiot? As for the guys that screwed up the quotes here, I will reiterate what I said: He's living in a fantasy world... Nuff said. Many here don't need a math lesson to tell us what 1/4 moa is at any distance. That should be the least of anyone's concern here. 1/4 moa is 1/4 moa, regardless of how far away it is. And no, a 1/4 moa at 400 yards is not 1" like someone alluded to. It's actually 1.047".
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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A real 1/4 moa rifle is something like what Erik Cortina used to win some recent big event F-Open class matches.
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It really breaks my heart that you guys don't believe me, guess I will have to cry into a pillow now lol Hey BSA Hunter post a picture of your favorite BSA, I'll bet mine makes yours look like a piece of used junk. Oh and my BSA is super accurate and I have killed well over 100 deer and over 10 moose and I only shoot factory loads, Winchester SuperX PowerPoints in 180 gr. out of it Peckerhead. 
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Personally, I have taken this rifle on 3 hunts and only have 17 rounds through it ... No one can say it's a 1/4 MOA rifle with a total of 17 rounds through it. I have not shot lots with it, however, I did not set up the rifle, Rod at Corlane Sporting Goods Ltd in Dawson Creek did. He shot many rounds from different Manufactures out of it while he was developing the rifle. When I got the rifle back after he customized it, there was no need to shoot it to the extent he did. Don't believe me, you have my blessing to call Corlane in Dawson Creek and ask to speak to Rod, he will confirm everything I have said here. There is no reason for him to lie about it. The round that it loves ended up being Nosler Trophy Grade ABLR in 190 GR. which suits me fine, since IMO they are EXCEPTIONAL FACTORY hunting rounds, the only downside is that there are very expensive, making shooting my Weatherby LR Rifle for "Fun" a very expensive pastime. Corlane Sporting Goods Ltd Ph: (250) 782-2111. IMO they are the best Long Range Gunsmiths and Hunting Rifle store In Canada. Website: https://www.corlanes.com
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So to shoot 1/4 moa at 100 yards you must shoot a .257 or smaller projectile? Regardless, very nice rifle. Huskemaw makes good stuff, weatherby is top notch. A hunting gun is a hunting gun. What?
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I believe you. I have no reason not to and I know that you grew up shooting. My comment was to the poster that said a .25 MOA rifle shot .25” at 400. I was trying to correct the incorrect wording of a previous poster not in any way questioning you or your shooting. My apologies if it came across different. 👍🏼
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[quote=KillerBee]Personally, I have taken this rifle on 3 hunts and only have 17 rounds through it ... Oh and my BSA is super accurate and I have killed well over 100 deer and over 10 moose and I only shoot factory loads, Winchester SuperX PowerPoints in 180 gr. out of it Peckerhead. This is quite an achievement. Killing over 100 deer and 10 Moose on 3 hunts with 17 rounds! Yoo da man!
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He didn't mean with that rifle.
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A .257 caliber bullet is roughly a quarter of an inch. I take it that the group would have to be one hole. Anything larger than .257 such as .264 is already unable to achieve 1/4 moa at 100 yards. But at 200, 1/2 inch is 1/4 moa. Might be wrong, but that's how I see it.
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A .257 caliber bullet is roughly a quarter of an inch. I take it that the group would have to be one hole. Anything larger than .257 such as .264 is already unable to achieve 1/4 moa at 100 yards. But at 200, 1/2 inch is 1/4 moa. Might be wrong, but that's how I see it. It is wrong. When talking group size, we're talking about the dispersion of the centers of the holes.
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1/60th of a degree.
1 moa is 1.047 inches at 100 yards.
.25 inches=1/4moa
.257mm
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If you put five .308" bullets through exactly the same hole the dispersion of the centers of the holes is zero, not .308".
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You're right. Center to center. Stand corrected.
But to be fair, the center of a .30 cal to the center of a .30 cal in say a clover leaf would be damn close. And if you got a rifle that accurate and that light weight, you've got the grail.
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If he has a sporter weight 300 mag that will repeatedly and reliably put five shots into less than 1/4 moa he does have something special all right.
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