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I'll be hunting this season with my rifled barrel 12 Guage. It's been a few years and when I last hunted with it often I used the remington copper solids with great success. I see they are no longer making them. Obviously the what shoots best in yours is the answer but looking for some recommendations before I have to buy 5 boxes of different slugs. Shotguns are a remington 1187 and a H&R Slugster.

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I have found the Remington Accutips to be the most accurate in my rifled barrels. I would go with the 2.75" version. They have been more available and cheaper than the 3.00" version lately.

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The Accutips have been accurate in all the slug guns I've used except one. That one hates everything. They may not be the most accurate in every or any gun but they should be accurate enough.

I have had good results with the Hornady SST slug in my Ultra Slug but it is a 20 ga. It is as accurate as the Accutips but they shot to a very different place.

In 12 ga I recently found some inexpensive sabots from Brenneke that brought a finicky Mossberg to trustworthy again. It loved the Federal sabots with the Barnes Expander but hates the copper sabot Federal now uses. They also showed promise in a Beretta 391 but that was only 3 rounds as that gun like Lightfield Hybrids which I have a fair bit. The biggest negative is the slug lands a good 6" lower than the current slugs at 50 yards so will need considerable adjustment if I choose to use them.

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I've used the Hornady SSTs with success. The last buck I shot with them, was an Illinois 7pt who dropped at the shot around 100yds, textbook mushroom. They've worked in 3 different guns amongst family. The only reason we switched to the Hornadys was that we couldn't find Lightfield Hybrids locally. Side note, while hunting in Illinois, I was in Walmart, and they were stocked up on slugs, went to checkout with 10 boxes of Lightfields, after ringing them up, the lady asked for my ID and FOID card, I politely said, "what? never heard of that, I'm a PA resident." Consequently, I left without any slugs.

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I've been using Breneke 3" Magnum Crush for years. The rifling is designed to work specifically for rifled barrels. They're very accurate.

https://www.brennekeusa.com/hunting-ammunition/magnum-crushtm/

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Haven't been lucky enough to try them on game, but I have tried Federal blue box 2 3/4" sabots in my fully rifled Winchester 1300 12ga., and found them to be surprisingly accurate. Shooting off of sandbags, with just fiber-optic open sights, I was getting tight cloverleaf patterns @ 50 yds.

They're basic lead, hollow point sabots, and relatively inexpensive. Might be worth a try.


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I used a slug gun for years in VA when I was stationed there. I had an H/R with the rifled barrel. The best accuracy I found was with the Win slugs firing a saboted 50 Cal bullet. They would group an inch and a half at 100 yards and smacked the heck out of deer. If you can find some I'd suggest seeing if they work in your gun.


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When I had to suffer a slug gun it was always fed Brennekes.

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Agree on AccuTips, they generally don't shoot terrible in any slug gun I've put them through, even if they aren't the best slug.

I've had similar results with the Winchester Deer Season XP Sabots. They aren't always the best for a gun, but I've never had them throw buckshot groups, either.

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I've had good luck with Hornady SST 's.

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Thanks for the recommendations. It amazed me over the years how differently loads shot in my slug guns. Also I'm seeing the selection in stock is very low. I have til Oct 15th here so I better get moving. Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by StoneCutter
I've been using Breneke 3" Magnum Crush for years. The rifling is designed to work specifically for rifled barrels. They're very accurate.

https://www.brennekeusa.com/hunting-ammunition/magnum-crushtm/


Just looked at these online. Wow. They look painful on both ends. I've got to check these out. Thanks for the reply.

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I know in the H&R, Winchester BRI sabot slugs work great if you can find them. I live in a state where shotguns are required on state land and sad to say, finding slugs is not easy.

In 20 gauge the Hornady SST’s work well, not sure in the 12 but worth a try

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So I saw remington sluggers online at a good price. It says they are for smooth bore and rifled bore. I'm a little confused by this.

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Originally Posted by MGunns
So I saw remington sluggers online at a good price. It says they are for smooth bore and rifled bore. I'm a little confused by this.

Stay with sabot loads to bring out the best accuracy in a fully rifled bore. Also, Sluggers will leave heavy lead deposits in your barrel.


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I used a slug gun for years in VA when I was stationed there. I had an H/R with the rifled barrel. The best accuracy I found was with the Win slugs firing a saboted 50 Cal bullet. They would group an inch and a half at 100 yards and smacked the heck out of deer. If you can find some I'd suggest seeing if they work in your gun.


The WW High Impact Supremes were the chit !
Ran those in a couple diff 870s w D&T receivers.
Shot great and were a hammer on deer.

BIL used the WW reg BRI type, and they shot great, but whistled through deer. They died, didn't go very far, but the bloodtrails sucked.
So being the cheap azz he is, he decided to just shoot em in the head. Not kidding. He didn't shoot past 50 yards.

I always bought a bunch of slugs, like 10 boxes, from same lot #. So was pricey even back in the day.
But I got 1.5" groups at 100 and never had fliers.

BUT.....................I also cleaned after 10 shots and fired a fouler.

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Have good accuracy with Winchester Partition Gold Sabot slugs 2 3/4 385 gr. in a Mossberg 835 rifled barrel. [Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


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Originally Posted by roundoak
Have good accuracy with Winchester Partition Gold Sabot slugs 2 3/4 385 gr. in a Mossberg 835 rifled barrel. [Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


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Originally Posted by hillestadj
When I had to suffer a slug gun it was always fed Brennekes.

My Rem 1100 12ga has always shot Brennekes better than any other slug I have shot with it. I have tried many different slugs just to see what groups best in my gun. The Brennekes were not only the most accurate, they are Hammers as well.

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I've found that Remington 12G Accutips shoot better out of a fast twist. My Ithaca shoots them well and it has a 1:24 twist. But it won't shoot lighter, faster Hornady SSTs worth a hoot.

My Savage 212 has a 1:35 inch twist and it shoots Hornady SSTs into a one inche group at 100 yards, but Remington Accutips not as well.

Not many people think about the rate of twist in their rifled slug barrels. It's a good thing to know.

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My Dad had an old Hastings rifled barrel back in the day that would only shoot slow, heavy slugs worth a hoot. Basically none of the new, higher speed sabots shot well from it, so he traded it off. It was an absolute tack driver with those old Remington Buckhammers, but you'd have to de-lead the riflings about every 20-30 shots.

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I always used a smoothbore with Remchoke rifled tubes, and those cheap Federal full-diameter slugs. I liked the idea of a full-diameter slug.


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That H&R should easily out shoot the 1187, at least mine does. My 1187 liked the Copper Solids, since they're gone I'm shooting SST's and they are just as accurate. My H&R will drive tack with Accu-Tips and isn't bad with SST's.

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Are 2.75" Winchester / BRI sabot slugs, with the 50 cal. projectile still being made? That's the only thing my fully rifled 870 has seen for the last 12 or so years. Luckily, I probably have a lifetime supply due to stocking up on them years ago. Don't always hunt in shotgun areas but they are my go-to when I do. Can't recall seeing them around in the last few years.

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Winchester and Lightfield were the last ones to make BRI style slugs, I think. Winchester discontinued them. I haven't seen Lightfields in ages.

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Looks like Lightfield is out of the hunting ammo game altogether, if not completely out of business.

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I always used the Winchester BRI’s in 2.75”. They’d shot a clover leaf at 75 yards…. Hit deer very hard also. Haven’t seen them in a few years and I’ve been looking. Only have about 15-20 left. I shoot an old Hastings barrel on an 870. It was by far the most accurate load for the gun.

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Originally Posted by MGunns
So I saw remington sluggers online at a good price. It says they are for smooth bore and rifled bore. I'm a little confused by this.

I think they will work ok out of either type of barrel. That's what my uncle always used in a Ithaca 37 smoothbore. Killed a lot of deer with them and that gun.


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My Mossberg 835/rifled groups Hornady sabots the best, shoots plain lead rifled slugs good enough for anything under 100y, and struggles to even pattern anything that says Remington on the box.

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Originally Posted by JeffyD
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So I saw remington sluggers online at a good price. It says they are for smooth bore and rifled bore. I'm a little confused by this.

Stay with sabot loads to bring out the best accuracy in a fully rifled bore. Also, Sluggers will leave heavy lead deposits in your barrel.
This has been my experience. Sabots work best in fully rifled barrels. The downsides are the costs and recoil to test them to see which your gun likes best. Both of mine really like Lightfields, but since they are out of the business I am not looking forward to having to find a new one.

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Another vote for Brenneke slugs. I have been pleased shooting the Green Lightning version in 2-3/4” 12 ga. Pretty accurate, <2” @50yds for 5 shots. Absolutely slams deer!
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Originally Posted by roverboy
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So I saw remington sluggers online at a good price. It says they are for smooth bore and rifled bore. I'm a little confused by this.

I think they will work ok out of either type of barrel. That's what my uncle always used in a Ithaca 37 smoothbore. Killed a lot of deer with them and that gun.

I've killed more deer with an Ithaca M37 with a 26" vent rib barrel, fixed IC choke, and Federal rifled slugs than all other guns combined, except maybe buckshot. Remington Sluggers, Winchester Super X rifled slugs, and Federal rifled slugs are fantastic deer loads if ranges are realistic. They self stabalize without barrel rifling. Aren't all that choke sensitive. And will obturate to fill even a back bored barrel. I have a 1975 Ithaca M37 with a standard bore 26" fixed IC choke barrel and they fire well from that. I have a newer 2018 production M37 with a "back bored" barrel that uses Browning Invector Plus choke tubes and they fire even better out of it. I can consistently break stationary clays with those slugs at 50 yards, and that's looking straight down the rib and covering the clay with the red front sight. I don't know how they'd do out of a fat barreled Mossberg 835. But they shoot very well out of Browning, Winchester and newer Ithaca barrels that use the Invector Plus choke tubes.

BTW, Winchester is still listing their BRI slugs. https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Shotshell/Super-X/XRS123

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Remington Accutips all the way , even though they have gone wayyy up in price in the last two years

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Another vote for Remington Accutips. Both my 870 and 11/87 pattern 3" groups with them @ 100yrds. They absolutely hammer deer as well. I have recovered several slugs and they make a pretty awesome mushroom. I would say, stick with the 2 3/4" version over the 3". The extra 50 fps isn't worth the shoulder pain.


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Originally Posted by Steelruger22
... stick with the 2 3/4" version over the 3". The extra 50 fps isn't worth the shoulder pain.
Amen to that!

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I started out using Accutips in my 220f due to how accurate they are but I lost all confidence in the bullet after having to grid search for 2 different deer with no sign of blood. Another buck only went 50 yards on a death run but he was shot right through the heart but no pass through. When I opened him up, there was little bullet fragments all over the off shoulder. I switched to Federal Trophy Copper slugs and have not looked back.

I know a lot of people use the Accutip's with success but that was my experience, for what it is worth.


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Remington copper solids were a 1 ounce slug pushing about 1400 fps for the 2 3/4 inch version, 1500 for the 3 inch version. The older slug barrels liked that type of slug better because of the rate of twist. I have an 870 with a hastings barrel. I lucked out when Hastings went under and picked up a couple of cases of their slugs for $40 a case. They are tack drivers in my barrel. You could save some money going with a heavier slower slug and get better accuracy. One reasonably priced slug that I am amazed with the accuracy is the fiocchi aero rifle slugs. I was busting clay pigeons at 100 yards with them at the range bracing against a post.


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Last year I used a 2.75 inch 20 ga. Accutip out of a Savage 220 to take a buck that dressed out at 173 lbs. I shot it at approx. 25 yards in the right side back ribs angling toward the off shoulder. At the shot it humped up and ran off the plot. I gave it about a half hour before walking out to check for sign. I found hair but no blood. My SIL found it about 50 yards into the woods. There was not one drop of blood found. The bullet did not exit and we didn't find it when we field dressed the deer by flashlight While I'm not claiming bullet failure, it obviously worked, I don't trust them after last year. Had that deer gone any distance I might night not have recovered it.

This year I will be using Federal Trophy Copper slugs or Win. Gold Partition 2.75s. They shoot equally well out of my gun and hopefully I will get exits.

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Thanks for the suggestion everyone.

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