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No but with a caveat. If the rifle weighs at least 8 pounds it is more of a heavy shove. If the rifle weighs less than 8 pounds it can be pretty brutal especially if the stock design is poor. I found the 416 Rigby to kick harder than the 458 Win but the 450 Rigby wasn't bad at all. Never shot one of the big WBY mags so don't know how they compare.
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The only one I ever shot was a Ruger #1 African and I didn't think it was bad at all. My 12 gauge Ithaca 37 Deerslayer with Brennekes kicked worse.
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The only one I ever shot was a Ruger #1 African and I didn't think it was bad at all. My 12 gauge Ithaca 37 Deerslayer with Brennekes kicked worse. Yep.... My second gun as a young lad was an H&R single shot 12ga. it would kick the snot out of you... the 458... not so bad
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Below 500gr, not too bad.
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Another possible answer, yes after the 8th or ninth shot.
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shot ruger #1 a few times, not my idea of fun but way better than the 378 bob! that thing just shook the world!! it did kill the heck out of frogs and turtles.
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The BSA 458 I had for a while wasn’t bad at all. The 7.5 pound 460 Van Horn I helped a guy work up loads for was terrifyingly brutal.
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The only one I ever shot was a Ruger #1 African and I didn't think it was bad at all. My 12 gauge Ithaca 37 Deerslayer with Brennekes kicked worse. Yep.... My second gun as a young lad was an H&R single shot 12ga. it would kick the snot out of you... the 458... not so bad Prezactly!
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off a bench yes has plenty recoil , standing and shooting not so much. my 20 gauge Savage 220 slug gun is much worse
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My 458 Lott s
Loses some appeal at about round 8 or 9 off the bench
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If I might, I'll add 4) It depends upon the weight of the rifle and design of the stock? Agreed; I've only shot the 458 in 2 guns. both M-70's with decent pads.............no problem, really, big push, but I've shot 338's & top loaded 45-75's with 400 grain bullets a fair amount. Neither equal the 458, but both jolt you in light rifles. The gun that I shot 3 times & will never ever shoot again is a 378 Weatherby.............just wicked fast, vicious recoil that will hurt you if not very careful. MM
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CashisKing: Yes I find the recoil of the 458 Winchester Magnum (and the 460 Weatherby Magnum!) very disconcerting and headache inducing.
Takes me a couple of range sessions after shooting "the big boys" to get my "trigger squeeze" back on my Varmint Rifles.
Do NOT actively seek those big guns out to shoot anymore.
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Yes, a CZ with the European stock. A bit brisk from the bench but not bad standing. A good friend has a CZ in 416 with the American style stock and after shooting my rifle he found a Euro stock for his. Likes it much more. Killed deer, hogs and a nice Cape Buff. Not nearly as bad as a single barrel 12 ga. with slugs
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Fired a old M70. Recoil was manageable but it hurt like a SOB when I didn’t hold on to the pistol grip as tightly as I should have with my RH and my middle finger smacked the trigger guard.
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Never shot one.
My buddy made his own buttstock for a Marlin 45-70.
We brain stormed it first and I suggested a fat buttlike
A-squared used on their rifles.
That coupled with a Decelerator made it nice to shoot with
his hot 525gr loads. Pushy, not punchy.
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I find a 375 ultra worse. The 458 is more of a big push.
Bb I had a 458 built on a Mauser action. I also thought of the recoil as a "big push" compared to some other big guns I owned or shot.
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Back about 1976/1977, me and another guy decided to do a Cape Buff hunt in South Africa
At that time, SA was have a population explosion of Cape Buff and you could kill all the tags you could buy!
We both got a Ruger M77 African in .458 Win Mag. We didn't get to SA, but we did take the guns out and shoot them one day.
I ran almost a full box through mine. I'm a recoil weenie and I found the recoil quite acceptable. More a heavy duty "shove" than a eye crossing, tooth rattling sharp jolt.
I bought a Ruger M77 in .300 Win Mag! I'd rather tickle a mare mules tail that shoot that thing again! THAT mutha HURT!
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No, and I was shooting a Belgian-made Browning with a pencil thin barrel that weighed 7 lbs. Easy.
Worst rifle I ever shot was a REM 700 BDL in 8mmRM. Couldn’t keep two hands on the gun. Worthless for follow up shots.
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